Is Cuomo going to make it?

[Doyle]

Now he has two storms to weather: the nursing home debacle and the sexual harassment claims.

[Inna Minnit]

Should he make it?

[Doyle]

Not sure. I haven't gotten too much from what I've read.

[What Exit?]

He's probably toast. He doesn't have a lotta of love from the other politicians in NY state.
There seems to be a lot piling up.

[Inna Minnit]

The sexual stuff, meh... they all do it. But the nursing home thing? Fuck him.

[Anacanapuna]

Originally Posted by Inna Minnit

The sexual stuff, meh... they all do it. But the nursing home thing? Fuck him.

This.

[C2H5OH]

I never did like him, but he has been better than his father was as governor. We have had worse, but I won't shed a tear to see him go.

[claudius]

He's done politically, but have you seen his stand up? The Cuomo brothers are poised to be the next Gallagher or Carrot Top!

[BrickaBracka]

Originally Posted by Inna Minnit

The sexual stuff, meh... they all do it. But the nursing home thing? Fuck him.

While this sounds like a glib disregard for what the women involved go through...it is a true statement. They do all do it.

I'm not sure how far down that path I'd be willing to go before my conscience would kick in and remind me that just because I personally have not suffered in this way that the suffering experienced by others should go unheeded - or that the perpetrators of this should go unpunished.

In this specific scenario however, the nursing home stuff should be easier to stick, and should serve the purpose of getting him replaced. Focusing on the sexual impropriety will likely act as a smokescreen for the other things which are easier to nail down in both the court of opinion and law.

[Inna Minnit]

I am a woman, and it wasn't glib disregard. I do *very much* assume they all do it. That doesn't make it right, it makes it less likely to be addressed. As you said the deaths of nursing home people is going to be easier to prosecute.

[Anacanapuna]

Well, let's see, I live out here on the High Lonesome where the governor's fiance is trying to destroy our way of life, so let me check on exactly how many fucks I give about the governor of New York ...

Ah, just as I suspected. None. Zero. Zip. Bupkus.

[C2H5OH]

Originally Posted by Anacanapuna

Well, let's see, I live out here on the High Lonesome where the governor's fiance is trying to destroy our way of life, so let me check on exactly how many fucks I give about the governor of New York ...

Ah, just as I suspected. None. Zero. Zip. Bupkus.

I live in NY and I share your lack of 'givashit' about him...

[Detroit Hoser]

Originally Posted by Anacanapuna

This.

Why not both?

Here's a real question, as I'm not current on my NYS politics. Is there a possibility that some of the sexual harassments allegations (which I fully believe) are being orchestrated by Donald Trump, et al, in an attempt to replace a Dem gov with a Rep gov so Trump can be pardoned?

[The Mighty Quinn]

I'm not expert in NY politics, but I can't imagine any likely outcome which would result in a Repug Governor. Which is appropriate, since they haven't won a statewide election there in going on 20 years. Presumably if he resigned or was impeached, the Democratic Lt. Gov would take over.

I suppose it's theoretically possible that he might be just politically wounded enough to not have to leave office, and not lose the primary, but could lose the general election if the Pubbies come up with a decent candidate. But that wouldn't be the sort of conspicuously Trumpy Republican who would be likely to pull such a move.

[Argument Clinic]

Originally Posted by The Mighty Quinn

I'm not expert in NY politics, but I can't imagine any likely outcome which would result in a Repug Governor. Which is appropriate, since they haven't won a statewide election there in going on 20 years.

Let's see 2021- minus 2006 = 15.

[fucktard loser]

I really don’t give a fuck about what happens to Cuomo. It’s about time New York and for that matter the USA to realize their value and that they can do way better for themselves than these scrubs they keep falling for.

[What Exit?]

Originally Posted by Argument Clinic

Let's see 2021- minus 2006 = 15.

The last state-wide election though where a Republican won in NY State was 2002 which does mean it is going on 20 years.

[C2H5OH]

Originally Posted by The Mighty Quinn

I suppose it's theoretically possible that he might be just politically wounded enough to not have to leave office, and not lose the primary, but could lose the general election if the Pubbies come up with a decent candidate. But that wouldn't be the sort of conspicuously Trumpy Republican who would be likely to pull such a move.

Nor would an obvious Trumpy Republican have any kind of a shot at winning. In the strongly Republican precincts he won (including mine), he didn't win very 'bigly'. Hell, Hillary did better (eta: than Biden). The 'NeverTrump Republicans' like me do not dominate this state's party, but an obvious Trumplican is certainly going to fail to get enough registered Reps in each district to not vote '3rd Party' to counter the strong Dem vote in NYC, Ithaca, and the other cities that would be considered 'Big Cities' in any state other than NY and CA.

As you said, it's not a reasonable possibility, so Cuomo, if the accusations are true, does not actually help nor hurt either party, electorally, and only a fool would try to capitalize on it. Expect a ReTrumplican candidate this next mid-term election in '22, in the midterms. Also expect a rather decisive loss.

[Doyle]

All previous BS above aside, I'll have to give it to Cuomo, he's a defiant SOB. I think he's eventually gonna have to resign.

[Doyle]

NM

[BrickaBracka]

Originally Posted by Doyle

All previous BS above aside, I'll have to give it to Cuomo, he's a defiant SOB. I think he's eventually gonna have to resign.

Nobody pulls the kind of media circus BS he did during covid without having a strong narcissistic streak. Shitbird thinks he does no wrong and anyone who calls him on his behavior is crazy. Even when anyone turns into everyone.

Someone should invoke the ghost of Al Franken's career. Is Cuomo really going to get all that much done that he's worth the trouble of defending him? Is Trump's SDNY court case somehow able to be fucked with were Cuomo to be replaced by a Trumpet? (full disclosure, I have no idea how SDNY is legally structured in relation to NY state)

[BJMoose]

SDNY is federal.

[Metal Years]

Originally Posted by Weedy Crocker

Why not both?

Here's a real question, as I'm not current on my NYS politics. Is there a possibility that some of the sexual harassments allegations (which I fully believe) are being orchestrated by Donald Trump, et al, in an attempt to replace a Dem gov with a Rep gov so Trump can be pardoned?

Wow. That's an interesting theory.

[Detroit Hoser]

Yeah, my mind gets creative when I'm bored.

[Doyle]

Originally Posted by Weedy Crocker

Yeah, my mind gets creative when I'm bored.

At least it was phrased as a question rather than an assertation.

[fucktard loser]

[Doyle]

I see this in almost every politician. Nice post.

[Doyle]

Well, it kinda died down and I thought he was going to skate. Not looking so good for Cuomo these days.

[Oxirane]

As the saying goes, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." The Democrats have controlled NYS since 2019, and while the Senate was Republican-lead from 2011 - 2018, it was still a pretty cozy situation. (The Assembly has been Democratically controlled for at least the last 30 years.) Give the Democrats their due in NYS, they don't eat their own. They may fight, quibble, threaten and posture, but at the end of the day, they won't throw their own under the bus.

Prior to today, if I were a betting man (I'm not), and if I knew a fair amount Albany politics (one can't live within 25 minutes of the capital for the last 22 years and not be inundated by NYS political news), I would have guessed the Assembly would slow roll the impeachment process, and IF they had voted to impeach, the Senate would have slow rolled the removal process until after the election hoping he wouldn't run or, more unlikely, wouldn't get re-elected.

If you go by this ranking, NY is the 6th most corrupt state, and I believe it. Both the former Senate leader leader (Joe Bruno - R) and longtime Assembly leader (Sheldon Silver - D) were charged with various crimes spanning years. Bruno was eventually acquitted, but Silver is still in jail.

This is not a statement on Democrats or Republicans, I hate both parties, and have been a proud unaffiliated voter for almost 30 years. In fact, it's interesting that, if you look at the above list, the most corrupt states (first 10, from the top) are R, D, R, R, R, D, R, R, R, R, one could argue the R's are more corrupt than the D's, but I'm not sure it's that easy. I think a more accurate explanation is the party in charge makes the rules.

Back to Cuomo, as I said, I would have guessed prior to this weekend and today, he would have survived somewhat intact, i.e., not forced from office, no charges ever filed and allowed to sail off into retirement, but I'm not so sure. His political mannerism are very heavy-handed, he's a political animal, and after awhile, even the Emperor develops enemies within his party, so he's on thin ice, IMHO.

The potentially criminal sexual assault and harrassment charges are horrible, but I am thoroughly disgusted by the nursing home debacle, and he may very well get away with murder, OK, negligent homicide. (IANAL, sorry.) How we allow our political leaders, regardless of political affiliation, to behave the way they do is the greatest mystery to me today. This should be something ALL citizens of ALL political affiliations and beliefs could get behind - hold our political leaders responsible for their actions regardless of party. Corruption is corruption, and both parties are guilty.

_{:Steps off of soap box.:}

[Pogo]

I looked at your list and I think you might have it in reverse.

Originally Posted by Oxirane's link

We then gave each one of these five metrics a weighted value and ran them through our exclusive algorithm to calculate how each state scored on our Corruption Index, where 100 is the most corrupt score a state can receive, and 0 is the least.

I think it is saying that Vermont is the most corrupt and Kentucky the least. I expected Illinois to win!

[Jaglavak]

Originally Posted by Weedy Crocker

Is there a possibility that some of the sexual harassments allegations (which I fully believe) are being orchestrated by Donald Trump, et al, in an attempt to replace a Dem gov with a Rep gov so Trump can be pardoned?

That would imply a level of intelligence that is conspicuously absent.

[Secret_Squirrel]

Cuomo is toasto

[Oxirane]

Originally Posted by Pogo

I looked at your list and I think you might have it in reverse.

I think it is saying that Vermont is the most corrupt and Kentucky the least. I expected Illinois to win!

Ha! That's funny, I might have...but no way Kentucky is the least??

[Oxirane]

Don't worry, Pogo, looks like Chicago is number one, LOL!

[Oxirane]

And here, NY is number one based on corruption convictions.

[Doyle]

And he's gone.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/10/andrew...r-of-new-york/

[Oxirane]

Ha! Did not see that one coming. Wonder if he will be prosecuted for anything.

[What Exit?]

Well, OK then. I guess I knew he was doomed, but still a little of a shock.

Originally Posted by What Exit?

He's probably toast. He doesn't have a lotta of love from the other politicians in NY state.
There seems to be a lot piling up.

[Sputnik]

Nope. He just resigned.

[C2H5OH]

And the crowd reacts:

[BJMoose]

Looks like a marching concertina band.

[Detroit Hoser]

Or an organ grinder who got a really good deal on monkeys.

[Oxirane]

Originally Posted by C2H5OH

And the crowd reacts:

EtOH is a fellow NYer, so I concur.

[claudius]

I just heard he and Fredo are taking their comedy act on the road, you know, in the tradition Abbott and Costello or Cheech and Chong.

[BrickaBracka]

I really do not like the implications of such a pre-judgement, especially one which I am admittedly applying after the fact, but I could read in this fuck's face that he was a gin-yoo-wine piece of human garbage.

There are shitbags you can spot from across the room, and shitbags you don't even notice until they're literally inside your life fucking it up from inside.

This guy was one that broadcast himself regularly...yet still clawed his way up the ladder. Thankfully he's been kicked down a few rungs.

[Sunny Daze]

It's weird. Apparently no one but his mother liked him (and she might be lying too). Yet he became governor. How does that work? I guess his dad's influence worked in his favor.

[SmartAleq]

Coming from a connected family in the city that gave us Tammany Hall doesn't sound any alarm bells here?

[The Mighty Quinn]

Originally Posted by Oxirane

Don't worry, Pogo, looks like Chicago is number one, LOL!

Hey! Sure, three of our councilpersons have been charged with Federal felonies in the recent past...but remember, we have 50 of them, so that's only 6%! 94% non-indicted is an A+ in my book!