Masks at Midnight - Day 3

[Red Skeezix]

The inhabitants wake to yet another grisly murder. This one is a no-brainer. Guiri is dead!

Player Roster
Meeko
Mahaloth
guiri
Colby11
Bashorian Clement
Bicycle Repair Man
TexCat
raventhief
Pleonast
Mordenkainen
Lightfoot




Guiri is Dead!

The day will end by 8 pm ET on Tuesday, October 25th 2022.
With 8 Living Players, the number required to execute is 5 votes.
Good Luck!

[Bicycle Repair Man]

We have 24 hours to nominate someone. I am all for letting our Scum victims suggest whom to nominate.

raventhief was Scum Producer according to my information.

[Colby11]

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man

We have 24 hours to nominate someone. I am all for letting our Scum victims suggest whom to nominate.

raventhief was Scum Producer according to my information.

That’s good that we got at least one scum player…

But we still need to find 2 of them….

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man

We have 24 hours to nominate someone. I am all for letting our Scum victims suggest whom to nominate.

raventhief was Scum Producer according to my information.

Your information is wrong.

[guiri]

Meeko
Colby11
Bashorian Clement
Bicycle Repair Man
TexCat
Pleonast
Mordenkainen
Lightfoot

Bicycle Repair Man and Bashorian Clement joined me in voting Raven D1, townie points for them.
- If Bashorian were not the child, would he have been willing to sacrifice his teammate? Would she have gone ahead and nominated him to semi-clear him? Not worth worrying about yet
- Bicycle Repair Man seems to be claiming Mortician but I’d like to see his result PM from the mod

I’m still good with Pleo and Meeko. Pleo could still be the Patsy or had his result interfered with by the Publicist. Wish Colby would participate more.

I still think Lightfoot is a good candidate, still no claim and some sort of pretence of protecting an important role fell flat.

Texcat could be the vig, hard to be sure. At least I expected the vig to try to sort out Raven so without a counterclaim, she’s the vig, the spy, or got lucky.

And that leaves Mordenkainen, still no reason to believe they’re Town, still no cases despite seeing mafia everywhere.

[TexCat]

Guiri, I might have missed it, but did you ever get a reply from mod about whether your power did or would work on Meeko after Mahaloth's death?

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by guiri

Your information is wrong.

This is interesting.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by TexCat

Guiri, I might have missed it, but did you ever get a reply from mod about whether your power did or would work on Meeko after Mahaloth's death?

Yes, I asked if my result was based on the players alive during the Night (N1) or at Dawn the next Day (D2) and was simply directed to refer to the player roster posted at Dawn D2. Mahaloth and Colby were still adjacent to me, so the 0 scum result refers to them. To be honest I don’t understand why the player roster was not updated toDay either, as my power would be a single use power if the roster never changes despite the wording indicating that my power can be used every Night: “ Therapist - While alive, once per night you will be told the number of players adjacent to you on the player roster have scum roles.”. I guess the Publicist could have used it on me, but in that case I’d expect my result to be wrong, not the public player roster, even after I was killed…

Originally Posted by Red Skeezix

The sign-in sheet indicated that:

1. Meeko
2. Mahaloth
3. guiri
4. Colby11
5. Bashorian Clement
6. Bicycle Repair Man
7. TexCat
8. raventhief
9. Pleonast
10. Mordenkainen
11. Lightfoot

Were present that evening.

Originally Posted by Red Skeezix

Player Roster:

1. Meeko
2. Mahaloth
3. guiri
4. Colby11
5. Bashorian Clement
6. Bicycle Repair Man
7. TexCat
8. raventhief
9. Pleonast
10. Mordenkainen
11. Lightfoot

Originally Posted by Red Skeezix

Player Roster
Meeko
Mahaloth
guiri
Colby11
Bashorian Clement
Bicycle Repair Man
TexCat
raventhief
Pleonast
Mordenkainen
Lightfoot

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

Your information is wrong.

What pray tell does a Producer do?

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

Yes, I asked if my result was based on the players alive during the Night (N1) or at Dawn the next Day (D2) and was simply directed to refer to the player roster posted at Dawn D2. Mahaloth and Colby were still adjacent to me, so the 0 scum result refers to them. To be honest I don’t understand why the player roster was not updated toDay either, as my power would be a single use power if the roster never changes despite the wording indicating that my power can be used every Night: “ Therapist - While alive, once per night you will be told the number of players adjacent to you on the player roster have scum roles.”. I guess the Publicist could have used it on me, but in that case I’d expect my result to be wrong, not the public player roster, even after I was killed…

Without strike throughs on the dead that is confusing.
Unless I again am missing something
I hope the mod gives you more clarification

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man

This is interesting.

Unless I missed it, until now you have not claimed anything except possible future information- correct?

[guiri]

Have you anything to share? Or any suspicions?

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Night 2 Results
You learn that Raventhief was the Publicist

Above from mod.

+++++


I claim I am not rich. I claim I am not poor. I have a wife, a dog and a house. And I claim that I want no more.

Blue section is an anagram of "mortician."

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Sorry, "Publicist". Should not post while packing boxes.

[guiri]

Aha, makes sense now

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

Have you anything to share? Or any suspicions?

I assume you are addressing me
Yes
I think you were killed because removing those above or below you would give you access to another investigation-
BC seems legit on the face of it and his demise would have given you access to Bicycle guy
Mordenkainen seems a good candidate as well [I have not done an ISO but read what others have said]
tex claims Vig (one shot) and may have known they were not targeting the Cult leader- it gives cred for end game if there is a mortician


in all fairness if I am Scum [I isn't] Meeko was safe from NK so I would not be exposed to your scrutiny

[guiri]

I don’t follow your thought process. Unless I’ve misunderstood my role (or my role does not exist and I’m just the Patsy), the players adjacent to me N0 were Mahaloth/Colby. When Mahaloth was killed i expected to get a result on Meeko/Colby but I guess that didn’t happen. If both Meeko and Mahaloth were dead, I don’t know that the last player in the list would be considered “adjacent” to me. And even if BC were killed, Colby is still alive so I would not have expected to get a result on Bicycle Repair Man.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

in all fairness if I am Scum [I isn't] Meeko was safe from NK so I would not be exposed to your scrutiny

I'm skimming this game more than I thought I was.

Where is this now? This is the first I am hearing that I had any kind of consideration, over anything in this game.

Also, as might deduced, I have received no PMs above and beyond my role, clarification on that role, the Wine and Cork messages, and clarification on how the logistics on those messages work.

[guiri]

I believe her logic was that if you were Night-killed, then I would have been able to identify (scum) Lightfoot as scum, and by that reasoning, you were safe from being Night-killed.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

I believe her logic was that if you were Night-killed, then I would have been able to identify (scum) Lightfoot as scum, and by that reasoning, you were safe from being Night-killed.

that was my thought process FWIW

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

I don’t follow your thought process. Unless I’ve misunderstood my role (or my role does not exist and I’m just the Patsy), the players adjacent to me N0 were Mahaloth/Colby. When Mahaloth was killed i expected to get a result on Meeko/Colby but I guess that didn’t happen. If both Meeko and Mahaloth were dead, I don’t know that the last player in the list would be considered “adjacent” to me. And even if BC were killed, Colby is still alive so I would not have expected to get a result on Bicycle Repair Man.

I am accustomed to my thought process not being followed

It was an IF/Then thought
didn't translate well I see

If the list didn't 'wrap' then the power would have been strangled if the owner of it was at the top or bottom of the list

[guiri]

Well. As it turns out the power is pretty useless after N0, like a broken record, unless that’s the intention, so any change in results could be due to me being the patsy or being targeted by the Publicist, who knows

Anyway guys, 4-ish hours left before someone is nominated, are there any candidates apart from Lightfoot and Mordenkainen?

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by guiri

Well. As it turns out the power is pretty useless after N0, like a broken record, unless that’s the intention, so any change in results could be due to me being the patsy or being targeted by the Publicist, who knows

Anyway guys, 4-ish hours left before someone is nominated, are there any candidates apart from Lightfoot and Mordenkainen?

None to me.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

Well. As it turns out the power is pretty useless after N0, like a broken record, unless that’s the intention, so any change in results could be due to me being the patsy or being targeted by the Publicist, who knows

Anyway guys, 4-ish hours left before someone is nominated, are there any candidates apart from Lightfoot and Mordenkainen?

I you are the patsy then Pleo isn't so---

Originally Posted by Pleonast

And the winners of Night Zero are
Bicycle Repair Man
Mordenkainen
TexCat
one of who is
The Publicist.

with bicycle guy how does this resolve?

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man

We have 24 hours to nominate someone. I am all for letting our Scum victims suggest whom to nominate.

raventhief was Scum Producer according to my information.

[guiri]

Publicist could have used their power on Pleo N0, he was the first and only claimant.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

Publicist could have used their power on Pleo N0, he was the first and only claimant.

So he received the correct role* but an incorrect list

* per bicycle rm

[LightFoot]

NETA there could be scum on the list but not the specific role

[LightFoot]

I believe the threshold has been met
I would rather not be the nominee

[Bashorian Clement]

[Bicycle Repair Man]

I think I would have preferred Lightfoot but:

[Pleonast]

[guiri]

Claims
Meeko - Gossip - Guiri, Mahaloth or Pleo are Patsy
Mahaloth - Seer (or Patsy) - Guiri and Meeko are not Cult leader
Guiri - Therapist (or Patsy) - Colby and Mahaloth are not scum
Colby11 - one of Priest, Harbinger, Veteran, Politician
Bashorian Clement - Child - Raventhief did not die after nominating him
Bicycle Repair Man - Mortician - Raventhief was Publicist
TexCat - Vigilante - failed on Raventhief
Raventhief- Publicist
Pleonast - Private Eye (or Patsy) - BCM, BC or Mordenkainen is Publicist (false info)
Mordenkainen - one of Priest, Harbinger, Veteran, Politician
Lightfoot - no claim

Unclaimed roles: Innkeeper, Janitor, Priest, Harbinger, Veteran, Politician, Servant, White Rose, Miller

Is that everything so far?

[TexCat]

I'm waiting to hear from Morden. I don't want to kill him without hearing from him and I think the 5th vote would kill him.

Last I looked there were quite a few who were advocating for a Lightfoot nomination, and then suddenly there are 4 votes for Morden who LF nominated.

[guiri]

FWIW Mordenkainen voted to absolve Lightfoot D1, it's not such a stretch to think they could be aligned and this is the definitive bus.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

Claims
Meeko - Gossip - Guiri, Mahaloth or Pleo are Patsy
Mahaloth - Seer (or Patsy) - Guiri and Meeko are not Cult leader
Guiri - Therapist (or Patsy) - Colby and Mahaloth are not scum
Colby11 - one of Priest, Harbinger, Veteran, Politician
Bashorian Clement - Child - Raventhief did not die after nominating him
Bicycle Repair Man - Mortician - Raventhief was Publicist
TexCat - Vigilante - failed on Raventhief
Raventhief- Publicist
Pleonast - Private Eye (or Patsy) - BCM, BC or Mordenkainen is Publicist (false info)
Mordenkainen - one of Priest, Harbinger, Veteran, Politician
Lightfoot - no claim

Unclaimed roles: Innkeeper, Janitor, Priest, Harbinger, Veteran, Politician, Servant, White Rose, Miller

Is that everything so far?

I appreciate the summary
It appears you have discounted Meeko being the Patsy - why??
Your blues and reds are assumed but evidence does support the red for raven and blue for the NKs

The publicist could have skewed any of the results as well- but the list does help

[guiri]

Yep, I was outlining the claims, not all possible universes, brain starts to hurt!

[LightFoot]

whomever the publicists target was N0 they would have been deceived N0 and N1
N1 another target would be deceived N1 and N2

The Publicist - Each night (including Night 0) you pick someone to decieve, they will remain decieved for tonight and tomorrow night. They will not know they have been decieved. While they are decieved any information they recieve from the moderator may be false.

attempting to formulate the possible options
additional minds invited


I finally have time to think and play

[guiri]

Yes. But I think, of the claimed roles, mine was the only power active N1. The only risk is Bicycle Repair Man’s N2 result, as far as I can tell.

If Pleo was the target, there was no effect N1.

If I was the target N1, there was no effect N2.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

Yes. But I think, of the claimed roles, mine was the only power active N1. The only risk is Bicycle Repair Man’s N2 result, as far as I can tell.

If Pleo was the target, there was no effect N1.

If I was the target N1, there was no effect N2.

What do you think about the roles reading " At the start of Day 1 ....."

Could they have been affected N0?

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by TexCat

I'm waiting to hear from Morden. I don't want to kill him without hearing from him and I think the 5th vote would kill him.

Last I looked there were quite a few who were advocating for a Lightfoot nomination, and then suddenly there are 4 votes for Morden who LF nominated.

Originally Posted by guiri

FWIW Mordenkainen voted to absolve Lightfoot D1, it's not such a stretch to think they could be aligned and this is the definitive bus.

Hard for me to get anything going in this game. For various reasons.

Also, I think the "no reveal", got to me in ways I was not expecting.

Finally, here I am, "Damned if I do, damned if I don't" on a fifth vote for Mordenkainen.

I feel I played my part, and it worked, including the Wine and Cork, I said as much. but, I feel less than vanilla here. Part of this is my lack of participation sure, but to come back into the game, and have lack of reveal, is another part.

I mean, I hope you guys have ideas, and I hope those ideas are right and good.

Becuase, I don't, and I don't, you know?

[Bashorian Clement]

I guess three votes for Mordenkainen is what we get.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

I guess three votes for Mordenkainen is what we get.

[vote]nominate LightFoot[vote]

[vote]LightFoot[vote]

You were the first to vote my nominee- upon that failure you nominate me.
Do you just want someone to die?

[LightFoot]

Tomorrow I am back to the grind

It was nice being able to play this weekend

[Bicycle Repair Man]

[Pleonast]

My preferred candidate, especially with the judo nomination of the only other player under serious threat of execution.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Meeko

Hard for me to get anything going in this game. For various reasons.

Also, I think the "no reveal", got to me in ways I was not expecting.

Finally, here I am, "Damned if I do, damned if I don't" on a fifth vote for Mordenkainen.

I feel I played my part, and it worked, including the Wine and Cork, I said as much. but, I feel less than vanilla here. Part of this is my lack of participation sure, but to come back into the game, and have lack of reveal, is another part.

I mean, I hope you guys have ideas, and I hope those ideas are right and good.

Becuase, I don't, and I don't, you know?

The problem we have in this game is that, at 8 players with presumably 6 Town and 2 Scum, we need all but one Townie voting to confirm a nomination. If you have actual qualms about a nomination, then certainly don't vote for the nominee. But Town doesn't have the luxury this game of waiting around for more information. We need to act with uncertainty, or we lose by default.

[TexCat]

[Bicycle Repair Man]

It will be disappointing to lose this game simply because we cannot get enough players to log in and play.

[guiri]

I’ll use my sole “dead” vote later today if neither Colby nor Meeko place their vote.

[Mahaloth]