A Wizards True Name - Day 2

[LightFoot]

Re: Zuma


compressed- because it is a bit of a wall

Originally Posted by zuma I'm somewhat against a mass name claim, although the only way I can imagine it hurting us is if some or all of scum have the same first and last names. I'm not ready to count anything out at this point though. The only advantage seems to be finding some sort of pattern (i.e. 7 pairs + 1 triple). If scum were forced to make up a first name then we'd see some singles out there. against name claim- although not sure it would hurt- finding a pattern= good I'd be more open to coordinating investigations to get the maximum number of results and no interference (aside from the 1 investigation scum would be able to block). Assuming 4 scum for the sake of argument, they'd know which 4 townies would be investigating them, but would only be able to block one of them. coordination of investigations=good Also, if we do decide on a name claim, I'd like to see the order determined by something other than one of us running it through random.org and presenting a list. I remember one game we used the score of an upcoming basketball game or something to determine the seed. Maybe there's a better way that I'm not aware of. But if we do a name claim- here is an idea Originally Posted by zuma This game is making my head hurt. I just thought of something. If we do coordinated investigations (and I think that is the right move, can anyone think of a reason not to do it?), then maybe a mass name claim could be the way to go?. Any matches should then investigate each other. Scum would then have to decide between making up a new name (thus being a "single"), or stealing one from town and inviting an investigation. Of course they'd probably just make up a name and pair themselves with another scum. But maybe that could be useful too if one of them flips scum. yep it might be a good idea- right guys? it just might work [/quote] Again, though, we'd still run the risk of scum having the same first and last names and finding out their first name after one of them gets lynched, then targeting townies with the same first name. I need to think about this some more, but wanted to throw out some possibilities.[/QUOTE] But maybe not Originally Posted by zuma Another thought: If there is some sort of pattern to first names (i.e. 7 pairs + a triple, or maybe 5 triples + a pair), scum might be able to eliminate some possibilities when it comes to determining who would be able to investigate them, or at least improve their odds. Imagine we do a name claim, (again for the sake of argument assume there are 13 town and 4 scum), and they see 5 Johns, 5 Marys, 2 Richards and 2 Tracys. If I'm scum I'm going after the Richards and Tracys. oh but maybe so Originally Posted by zuma ~snipped~ I'm still not sold on even a #of letters claim yet, but I propose we generate the random list today, whether or not we eventually use it, because if we do we'd probably need to start soon as the Day ends monday. ~snipped~ Originally Posted by zuma I'm of the opinion now that we should not do any sort of name claim. I don't see much of an advantage in doing it, and it can't realistically be done in an organized fashion. I do think it is vital that we try to organize the investigations though. It would be a shame if it turned into a clusterfuck where we were all blocking each others' investigations. Originally Posted by zuma I'm not going to be participating in name claims. I think it gives scum too much information, for too little reward on our side. I'll reiterate that I am investigating Mahaloth. I worry that we'll have many blocked investigations at this point. nope don't like the claiming at all now Originally Posted by zuma I'd rather use random.org as well, G. We have like 24 hours and this is like herding cats. I think it's imperative that we coordinate, so my announcing who I am investigating is the next best thing. At least by announcing that I am investigating mahaloth I should be able to prevent a 2nd investigation on him. I'd love a random.org thing and will participate if it can be organized. I'll also be announcing the results of my investigation at dawn.

back and forth about claiming
earlier didn t like random.org and above loves the idea
EOD tied for the lynch by the last hour vote of Chaos on charlie
as Bill noted

Originally Posted by BillMc

So you throw in a last minute vote to make a tie, which gives a 90% chance of no lynch. This vote looks more like a weak attempt to save zuma than to lynch gnarly

Originally Posted by zuma

I remain opposed to name claims. I worry scum's investigative abilities might allow them to discover their first names.

And since when is Bill the "towniest"????

this tune changed so many times the orchestra left


Zuma was my primary yesterDay and Chaos second


nothing has changed at this point
barring new data

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by BillMc

Well there is an f'n surprise!

to be fair, it was more of your name claim that probably got you killed. hope to see you next game.

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Re: Zuma


compressed- because it is a bit of a wall

Again, though, we'd still run the risk of scum having the same first and last names and finding out their first name after one of them gets lynched, then targeting townies with the same first name. I need to think about this some more, but wanted to throw out some possibilities.[/QUOTE] But maybe not oh but maybe so nope don't like the claiming at all now

back and forth about claiming
earlier didn t like random.org and above loves the idea
EOD tied for the lynch by the last hour vote of Chaos on charlie
as Bill noted

Originally Posted by BillMc

So you throw in a last minute vote to make a tie, which gives a 90% chance of no lynch. This vote looks more like a weak attempt to save zuma than to lynch gnarly

Originally Posted by zuma

I remain opposed to name claims. I worry scum's investigative abilities might allow them to discover their first names.

And since when is Bill the "towniest"????

this tune changed so many times the orchestra left


Zuma was my primary yesterDay and Chaos second


nothing has changed at this point
barring new data[/QUOTE]

no result?