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It's like asking people in Africa if something that has black people eating watermelon, fried chicken, and using that blackface accent is racist. They may completely lack the context to know it is racist. I remember a racist video about wanting to date a Japanese woman that Japanese people had no problem with, but Japanese Americans could see all the racist stereotypes. Everyone tended to agree it was racist in the US, even though Japanese people didn't get it, because they lacked the social context.
Hmmm... I haven't gotten a good outraeg on lately. *ahem* I'm a Polish-American and I'm mad as fuck about people who don't have a drop of Polish blood in them eating pierogis! And kielbasa! That is soooooo culturally-appropriating and racist! But don't call your Babciu back in the old country to ask her opinion; she lacks the appropriate cultural context to know how anti-Polishly racist that is. Plus she'd probably flip her babuska if she found out that most Americans' exposure to pierogis are those hemi-hockey puck dough wads called Mrs. T's
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Old 7th May 2018, 10:05 AM
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The rest of the world is lucky to have BigT (and google translate) so they can learn the reasons to tweet abuse at teenage girls who live in a different hemisphere.
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Old 7th May 2018, 10:31 AM
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Mmmmm, Mrs. T's pierogi....


ETA: why yes, I am also fond of Ragú spaghetti sauce. How did you guess?
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Old 7th May 2018, 10:37 AM
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i tried those frozen pierogis once. i didn't like them

i've never had real ones though. i also use ragu spaghetti sauce (or whatever's on sale). and parmesan cheese from the can. white people spaghetti, it's what i was raised on
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Hmmm... I haven't gotten a good outraeg on lately. *ahem* I'm a Polish-American and I'm mad as fuck about people who don't have a drop of Polish blood in them eating pierogis! And kielbasa!
Is it OK if we're only half Polish?

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Can I eat them if I only use the English half of my mouth? I eat the real ones from the Polish church's annual sale with my Polish half.
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Old 7th May 2018, 11:08 AM
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Spaghetti is originally from China (except for the tomato sauce, which hails from Mesoamerica) and polish sausage is really Turkish. It's cultural appropriation all the way down!
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Old 7th May 2018, 11:33 AM
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And that's why I don't get "cultural appropriation" except in its grossest forms. An immigrant comes to a new land and what do they do? Open up a restaurant to serve food they miss from back home to other immigrants who also miss that food--then someone who's native comes in and says, "Whoa, smells good, what is this amazing stuff?" and there you go. Is it cultural appropriation when I, born and raised in California eating Mexican food on the regular, go to someplace in the Northeast and bitch because the "Mexican" food is so crappy and bland? I'm white, what do I know from Mexican food? Oh I dunno, been eating it since I was a kid, I've eaten fish tacos from a street vendor in Ensenada, I've been to Mexico and the guys in the taco truck I frequent don't speak English? Maybe I do have a leg to stand on when it comes to passing judgment on piss poor Mexican food. Cultural appropriation or food appreciation, who makes the call?
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Old 7th May 2018, 11:41 AM
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We are Borg.
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I'm somewhere in between thinking going as lazy Mexicans as a halloween costume is funny and thinking it's an outrage for white people to do yoga.
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Old 7th May 2018, 11:48 AM
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I'm in big trouble, cooking a big pot of Ramadan Soup yesterday. I'm not even catholic!
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Old 7th May 2018, 12:02 PM
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I'm not even catholic!
As an Atheist Immigrant from Catholicism, I forgive you. Enjoy your soup.

ETA: I forgot to put my sig on my BigTard Lecture Series post, which is what I made it for, so here it is retroactively:
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Old 7th May 2018, 12:40 PM
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Sklad isn't a creepy pervert with a rape fixation, he's a bold "moral explorer". That thread's gone fucking weird.
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Old 7th May 2018, 12:51 PM
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"I'm more worldly than you. Let me post a tedious TL;DR wall-o'-text to prove it!"

It's about China. All we need for the Durpfecta is for even sven to come back, get even more tediously TL;DR about her awesome and enlightening experiences in China, and tell us that "We have much to learn from them."

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Old 7th May 2018, 01:13 PM
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Yeah, that place is funny. Maybe they should spend a little time exploring why they can't stop sucking Skald's blind dick long enough to even consider why other people dislike him and his annoying hypotheticals.
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:19 PM
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I have half a mind to pit Skald's fan club. I don't even want to pit Skald himself, deserving as he is, because there's really no point. He's a creep and isn't going to change. But his little enablers really tick me off. He's a popular poster who's been around for awhile, so apparently that gives him carte blanche to engage in his masturbatory hypotheticals without ever being called on it.

It kinda reminds me of the Opal phenomenon. Why are Dopers so eager and willing to worship and be apologists for posters who are either severely mentally ill or just plain creepy?
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:24 PM
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... why they can't stop sucking Skald's blind dick long enough to even consider why other people dislike him and his annoying hypotheticals.
Because it's unpossible that anyone could [like/not like <strike-out the one that doesn't apply for your post>] something different from them?

Nawww, that's unpossible!
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:34 PM
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Inigo thinks s/he's pretty clever! "Moral explorer!" Pretty sure I have a new hater.
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:41 PM
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I have half a mind to pit Skald's fan club. I don't even want to pit Skald himself, deserving as he is, because there's really no point. He's a creep and isn't going to change. But his little enablers really tick me off. He's a popular poster who's been around for awhile, so apparently that gives him carte blanche to engage in his masturbatory hypotheticals without ever being called on it.

It kinda reminds me of the Opal phenomenon. Why are Dopers so eager and willing to worship and be apologists for posters who are either severely mentally ill or just plain creepy?
I think he's kinda running to be the new Opal, with his whole "blind bard" saga.
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:52 PM
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I think any accusations of cultural appropriation only have teeth if they're philosophical/spiritual/religious in nature. If it's about art/aesthetics, it's kind of a non starter. Yes, people sometimes get attracted to the art or fashion of other cultures, it would be a pretty dull world if they didn't.
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:58 PM
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Skald hasn't posted since the third. I wonder if he was surprised by the backlash.
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Old 7th May 2018, 02:06 PM
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Skald hasn't posted since the third. I wonder if he was surprised by the backlash.
Maybe. He didn't see it coming.
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Old 7th May 2018, 02:07 PM
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Skald hasn't posted since the third. I wonder if he was surprised by the backlash.
Maybe. He didn't see it coming.
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Old 7th May 2018, 02:20 PM
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Is Whiskey Dickens always a whiney loon? Or is it just him(?) being "edgy" in this thread?
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Is Whiskey Dickens always a whiney loon? Or is it just him(?) being "edgy" in this thread?
He can be normal, but he's like that sometimes, too. I think he's had several mentions in the omnibus troll thread.

I'm so negative today! I need to play with kittens or eat a Snickers or something.
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Old 7th May 2018, 02:46 PM
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Feed a Snickers to a kitten! Or no, don't, chocolate's not good for them. Give the kitteh a shrimp instead. You'll feel much better.

I really want to go in that "wypipo" thread to point out that, no matter how much everyone wants to make it so, "white" is NOT a race. Game < candle however.
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Old 7th May 2018, 03:08 PM
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Is Whiskey Dickens always a whiney loon? Or is it just him(?) being "edgy" in this thread?
He can be normal, but he's like that sometimes, too. I think he's had several mentions in the omnibus troll thread.

I'm so negative today! I need to play with kittens or eat a Snickers or something.
You could eat the kitten and play with the Snickers. However, I don't recommend this. Why do hyu-mons like fuzzy kittens to play with but not eat?
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Old 7th May 2018, 03:14 PM
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I have half a mind to pit Skald's fan club. I don't even want to pit Skald himself, deserving as he is, because there's really no point. He's a creep and isn't going to change. But his little enablers really tick me off. He's a popular poster who's been around for awhile, so apparently that gives him carte blanche to engage in his masturbatory hypotheticals without ever being called on it.
This is EXACTLY how I feel about it.

Skald is going to keep on being Skald, and if you pit him he probably won't even show up. But his entourage of loyal worshipers is driving me around the bend—especially kayT.

Dopers: Skald posts rapey stuff.
kayT: What rapey stuff? I'm not seeing it. You just don't understand the wonderfulness that is Skald.
Dopers: Okay, here are some rapey things he posted.
kayT: You actually SEARCHED for this? You guys are obsessive, creepy stalkers!

Oh, and Asimovian shows up to warn people to stop picking on Skald, but he refuses to move the thread to the Pit because he doesn't want to make things easier for those lazy-ass Skald haters.
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Old 7th May 2018, 03:28 PM
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...those hemi-hockey puck dough wads called Mrs. T's.
So you're saying that Mrs T's is the BigT of the pierogi world.
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Old 7th May 2018, 03:35 PM
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I have half a mind to pit Skald's fan club. I don't even want to pit Skald himself, deserving as he is, because there's really no point. He's a creep and isn't going to change. But his little enablers really tick me off. He's a popular poster who's been around for awhile, so apparently that gives him carte blanche to engage in his masturbatory hypotheticals without ever being called on it.
This is EXACTLY how I feel about it.

Skald is going to keep on being Skald, and if you pit him he probably won't even show up. But his entourage of loyal worshipers is driving me around the bend—especially kayT.

Dopers: Skald posts rapey stuff.
kayT: What rapey stuff? I'm not seeing it. You just don't understand the wonderfulness that is Skald.
Dopers: Okay, here are some rapey things he posted.
kayT: You actually SEARCHED for this? You guys are obsessive, creepy stalkers!
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Well, yes. Rape is bad. Genocide is bad. Irresponsible harvesting of natural resources is bad. Urban overcrowding is bad. Poverty is bad. These are easy. Mix 'em up a bit and ask people how they would prioritize them and things get more interesting. For an added twist, to play on madmonk28's Lewis & Clark proposition, let's say there is competition to do horrible things for good as well as horrible reasons, (Let's pretend for a minute there was competition between, of France, Spain, and England to perform the same kind of reconnaissance envisioned by Washington DC). Now, which basket of evil is preferable: gang raping Sacagawea, or participating to some degree in the multitude of atrocities that accompanied colonizing the lands west of the Mississippi--attrocities which Sacagawea herself is now complicit in facilitating? Or participating not at all when it is a certainty someone else will? But golly that's all very complicated and requires consideration of identifying and accepting smaller horrors to prevent greater ones. Best to just blame complexities on the questioner and not give it a second thought. I don't want to speak for the OP, that's that's the sort of thing I was referring to in the post you quoted.
What the actual fuck?
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Well, yes. Rape is bad. Genocide is bad. Irresponsible harvesting of natural resources is bad. Urban overcrowding is bad. Poverty is bad. These are easy. Mix 'em up a bit and ask people how they would prioritize them and things get more interesting. For an added twist, to play on madmonk28's Lewis & Clark proposition, let's say there is competition to do horrible things for good as well as horrible reasons, (Let's pretend for a minute there was competition between, of France, Spain, and England to perform the same kind of reconnaissance envisioned by Washington DC). Now, which basket of evil is preferable: gang raping Sacagawea, or participating to some degree in the multitude of atrocities that accompanied colonizing the lands west of the Mississippi--attrocities which Sacagawea herself is now complicit in facilitating? Or participating not at all when it is a certainty someone else will? But golly that's all very complicated and requires consideration of identifying and accepting smaller horrors to prevent greater ones. Best to just blame complexities on the questioner and not give it a second thought. I don't want to speak for the OP, that's that's the sort of thing I was referring to in the post you quoted.
What the actual fuck?
Where has he (Inigo Montoya) been all these years? Holy shit, he has been annoyingly derpy lately.
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Old 7th May 2018, 03:50 PM
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Skald hasn't posted since the third. I wonder if he was surprised by the backlash.
Eh, I'd stand by for an announcement about his health instead: "Sorry I couldb't take the time to answer my crule detractors, but I have bebb praticuarly blind this wek."
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Hmmm... I haven't gotten a good outraeg on lately. *ahem* I'm a Polish-American and I'm mad as fuck about people who don't have a drop of Polish blood in them eating pierogis! And kielbasa!
Is it OK if we're only half Polish?
Of course. I'm only half Polish, and I'm certainly not going to call myself a cultural appropriator.

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Can I eat them if I only use the English half of my mouth? I eat the real ones from the Polish church's annual sale with my Polish half.
Welllllllll... ok, if they're fried with lots of onions.
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Old 7th May 2018, 03:59 PM
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Inigo thinks s/he's pretty clever! "Moral explorer!" Pretty sure I have a new hater.
Since coming back from his hiatus, it seems like he's turned into one of those "mind so open his brain falls out" types.
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Old 7th May 2018, 04:11 PM
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I can't point to any specific posts but I've always gotten a creep vibe from Inigo Montoya, so his sticking up for Skald doesn't surprise me.
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I think I've posted my grandma's pierogie recipe before, but I can post it again if anyone wants it. (Mrs. T's are an abomination!)
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I'm a Polish-American
I'm glad you came in and said that. I was just about to let loose with a bunch of Pollack jokes but won't now. Just don't want to have to explain them to you.
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Inigo thinks s/he's pretty clever! "Moral explorer!" Pretty sure I have a new hater.
Since coming back from his hiatus, it seems like he's turned into one of those "mind so open his brain falls out" types.
I can't stand the pseudo-intellectual gibberish. Intelligent people make themselves clear, they don't wrap their thoughts in abstract bullshit.
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I am not a one trick pony! I obsess about psychiatric oppression too! I do! And being poly! I can be tedious and self-importantly serious on multiple topics!
No, dear. You USED to do psychiatric oppression. Then you moved on to polyamory. Now you're like Ms Gender Bender.

You're totally a one-trick pony. You just switch obsessions every half-decade or so.
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Old 7th May 2018, 06:13 PM
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can i start the new thread now
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Damnit! I'm at my calorie limit for the day, and you guys talking about pierogies are making me hungry.

I recently found a fantastic Polish restaurant in the town I'm moving to soon, and they sell frozen boxes of the pierogies they make for folks to take home. Maybe I can harass my husband into bringing some home on his way back here...
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It's summer now so my trick is to stock the fridge with buckets of cut up watermelon and any time I'm feeling hungry, I just eat that.
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Old 7th May 2018, 06:33 PM
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ok i'm starting it since we're all talking about food now

can someone close this one please @Fenris, @hajario
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I have half a mind to pit Skald's fan club. I don't even want to pit Skald himself, deserving as he is, because there's really no point. He's a creep and isn't going to change. But his little enablers really tick me off. He's a popular poster who's been around for awhile, so apparently that gives him carte blanche to engage in his masturbatory hypotheticals without ever being called on it.

It kinda reminds me of the Opal phenomenon. Why are Dopers so eager and willing to worship and be apologists for posters who are either severely mentally ill or just plain creepy?
In the one thread where I asked why was it necessary to have such a skeevy post, Shodan tells me “... you have to involve the reader. A clinical description doesn't have the same impact.”

So just remember folks, next time you tell a story, use graphic details to entice the reader. Don’t post that you cut your hand while slicing a bagel. tell us ALL about it, Dick-in-a-popcorn-box-style. The World’s Smartest People™️ just won’t connect otherwise.


To answer your question as why dopers worship these types? Because the Skalds normalize their equally skeevy kinks.
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Since coming back from his hiatus, it seems like he's turned into one of those "mind so open his brain falls out" types.
I can't stand the pseudo-intellectual gibberish. Intelligent people make themselves clear, they don't wrap their thoughts in abstract bullshit.
Well, y'know, if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit.
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I can't stand the pseudo-intellectual gibberish. Intelligent people make themselves clear, they don't wrap their thoughts in abstract bullshit.
Well, y'know, if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit.
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