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[Askthepizzaguy]

Unvote All

Okay, checking to see if that worked.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot Annoying Christmas Singer (3): Silverjan (3)[8], Prof. Pepperwinkle (14), Askthepizzaguy (19)[51], A Poor Shepherd Boy (42), Pleonast (43) Askthepizzaguy (2): Vanta Black (4), Silverjan (8) If you want, you can paste this as well: Voting History: post #3: Silverjan voted Annoying Christmas Singer post #4: Vanta Black voted Askthepizzaguy post #8: Silverjan unvoted All post #8: Silverjan voted Askthepizzaguy post #14: Prof. Pepperwinkle voted Annoying Christmas Singer post #19: Askthepizzaguy voted Annoying Christmas Singer post #42: A Poor Shepherd Boy voted Annoying Christmas Singer post #43: Pleonast voted Annoying Christmas Singer post #51: Askthepizzaguy unvoted All

Yes it worked. Okay...

[Askthepizzaguy]

To remove a member from the larger team. Making it 2 versus 2.

Reason: Post 43 of this thread.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Cheers, I won't be sticking around to talk it out. Those are my terms for continuing to fight for town.

What is the Town motivation for taking the game hostage like this?

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

My second choice is pizza. My third is Mordenkainen who can take his eyeball rolling "snuggling" accusation over to pizza. Then pick two from Pleonast, gnarlycharlie and Suburban Plankton.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Meeko

The long and the short of it then, is simply this

If you believe Prof, why aren't I higher, or even above Prof in your list?

I mean, once we get past that * I * am saying this, etc. etc. etc.

I don't really understand how you rank us here.

Okay, Meeko

It's really important that we understand each other, so I may be about to over explain myself.

The above quoted is not a list of how I rank you alignment wise.

Youre all the same alignment, I think.

Technically you can be a godfather and Prof's check of you can be wrong. I am not reading you based on Prof's check, all his check does is not negate the lean of innocent I have on you.

Rather, the above quoted list? Is whose vote I would follow by order of priority.

I know Prof is likely the town cop, and I think he voted a scummo yesterday. Therefore, I like his alignment, and his judgment in terms of whether he is likely to win for town or not.

I feel Vanta is the vig based on the claim and because I checked, and did suspect ACS therefore that seems like a protected hit and a hit was missing. So, I trust Vanta in terms of alignment, even if Vanta isnt voting correctly.

Then it's just whoever I think is town, I cannot split my vote with them.

But in terms of who decides what, if the above are split for any reason I will follow the person who ranks highest on my "is obviously town" list.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Meeko

What is the Town motivation for taking the game hostage like this?

Communication.

You have to know where I will eventually be voting if forced to vote together with my townies.

Therefore I had to say it all in advance, so you can refer to it in the future.

You simply misinterpret me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@ Vanta Black

Pleonast is coordinating with opposing scum in that post for the night actions.

As such, he confessed and is guilty. He is probably protected so you cant shoot him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@ Professor Pepperwinkle

Since Vanta cannot shoot Pleonast we have to yeet him and shoot ACS instead.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@ Meeko your vote is absolutely required.

If we cannot agree to yeet Pleonast then I will of course demur and simply vote wherever the Prof votes.

Therefore you know what my two possible votes today are, after Prof has voted.

Its either Pleonast, or whoever Prof is currently voting.

I have explained to Prof and Vanta why the order matters here. Its up to you to follow Prof/Vanta's vote regardless whether you believe me or not.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Mordenkainen

Obviously, I need your assistance as well. Please read the above and follow Prof P whereever he votes. Its his call.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

@ Professor Pepperwinkle

Since Vanta cannot shoot Pleonast we have to yeet him and shoot ACS instead.

I shot ACS last night, he dodged my bullet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@gnarlycharlie

See above as well.

We have to vote united today absolutely.

Prof P is the point person. All townies have to follow him.

If Prof decides to hit Pleonast, then we follow him.

If Prof decides to hit ACS, then we follow him.

Agreed?

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Suburban Plankton

Your vote is required if you are town and one of us fails to vote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

I shot ACS last night, he dodged my bullet.

Okay, that makes ACS the godfather of team 1
Pleonast is the godfather of team 2

So thats actually even better.

Vanta you then have a free shot on literally all the other scums. That's fantastic.

I am a step behind in piecing it together, but I reacted as soon as Pleonast did the open coordination.

Sorry. Flew off the handle a bit.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ACS is on the smaller team, with Silverjan I think.

APSB and BC and Pleonast should be the exact team 2.

Pleonast is openly coordinating so he is probably protected.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

@ Professor Pepperwinkle

Since Vanta cannot shoot Pleonast we have to yeet him and shoot ACS instead.

Okay, we have double-wrap, maybe we can get them both!

If it doesn't work we're vanquished anyway.

Note to anyone reading this: I am guardedly trusting Pizza, with the understanding that this could all be one big cuddlefuck with him plucking out my own two top suspects.

And I am a little suspicious of Silverjan for how quickly she followed my vote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think we need to hit the larger team here.

Therefore the correct yeet should still be Pleonast over ACS. But I dont know the mechanics well enough to make that call.

Vanta youre paying attention so you know whether it makes sense.

Prof and Vanta you can discuss it.

As for me, I gotta run. This is another hour I shouldnt be doing this. Got sleep n work.

I will return to move my vote if Prof and Vanta insist on hitting ACS over Pleonast.

I think Pleonast hit is the winner for town, because it hits the larger team, the open coordinator, and someone who also probably cannot be vigged.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think I need to keep my vote on ACS for tiebreaking reasons, unless it is decisively decided to hit Pleonast first and we all make that call to move en masse.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote Pleonast

[Askthepizzaguy]

For tiebreak purposes.

[Vanta Black]

Okay, we have 3 days and 14 hours to discuss this.

I am for wrapping both ACS and Pleonast. Go big or go home.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Alright. There are still niggles regarding the doctors, because I cant really predict what they do.

On further think, it basically comes down to who randed what in what position and you cant tell with the team of three because none have flipped yet.

Its not a specific role they have to protect anyway.

But its clear that ACS is on the smaller of the two teams and Pleonast is on the larger.

So its in towns best interest to eliminate him first, today, without delay.

The mechanics dont work out as nicely as I would like in terms of that actually making things easier for Vanta Black to shoot at night. Its not one role that remains protected.

And I am really severely late for bed saying all this. Good luck.

I recommend having someone like Vanta or Prof P summarize what I said because good luck following it.

This is a line of thought desperately in need of someone who can talk like normal people reading it, understanding it, and recommending it as a known townie and leader of the town.

Otherwise its a good move and it doesnt happen.

I dont have the credibility to lead the town, I am just an ideas guy. I will follow where I gotta move.

In the meantime, do as Prof P and Vanta says. One of them should be able to explain what the heck I was saying in the past hour since Pleo outed himself.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Okay, we have 3 days and 14 hours to discuss this.

I am for wrapping both ACS and Pleonast. Go big or go home.

If we had multivote I would.

I prefer Pleo to ACS, if we have to choose one.

There are not enough live townies to vote divided.

Scums can vote as a bloc of 5 and save themselves if we do.

If thats legal I will absolutely do it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I do have to run. Sorry its all so rushed and sloppy.

Literally every post I made this game was rushed and sloppy. Sorry.

I do not have time to play these days, I really dont, or I'd have been in the starting lineup.

Keep hope alive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is the game winnable if we hit godfather team 1 and then shoot their doctor tonight, fully eliminating Archangel team?

I think so but Prof P and Vanta Black, seriously double check the numbers.

If so, thats absolutely optimal and negates literally everything I said about Pleonast.

If we can yeet Pleonast team 1 2 3 afterward no problem, then the order doesnt matter today in the first place.

I seriously have to run and I cant count it up. Its trivial to do so.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I got 4 hours to sleep, which means I am not going to get a restful night anyway. Especially with work that isnt done.

Blue- locked into the town position 15. TheCatsMeow ATPG 5. Prof. Pepperwinkle 11. Vanta Black 9. Meeko Green- essentially locked into the town position 4. guiri / gnarlycharlie 19. Mordenkainen 14. Suburban Plankton Team Pleonast 6. Bashorian Clement 3. A Poor Shepherd Boy 2. Pleonast Team Archangel 16. SilverJan 12. Annoying Christmas Singer

ACS has to be the godfather because docs usually cannot self protect, and ACS is known scum more or less. AA team lost backup doc, which means Team Archangel doc is always covering ACS at night, no one else.

If doc cannot self protect then Jan should be vulnerable at night. However, even if Jan were magically saved by a protection from the other team, Jan is still vulnerable during day.

Therefore the only night we ever have to deal with 2 scum shots ever again is tonight if the teams are correctly bound together in the above list.

ACS should flip smaller team, putting that team one away from a loss. Yeets cannot be protected against, and that means AA team doesnt live to shoot in the night thereafter.

Assuming terrible luck, town loses 2 tonight, and goes from 7 to 5.

That means five townies enter the next day, yeet a scum, and if that eliminates archangel team completely, that means five townies enter night versus 3 scums.

The next day it is 4 townies to 3 scums and the 3 scums are the exact team so every townie votes correctly from then onward and it doesnt matter if the vig survives tonight either.

So we could lose the professor or vanta AND the doctor and still win, assuming AA team is correctly pieced together as Jan and ACS.

ACS being a godfather yeeted today means any shot or yeet on the remainder wins and its possible we get 2 shots at that, one a literal shot, one a yeet, to make it happen.

If it works then AA team is eliminated and town enters a night with 5 alive and even 4 remaining vanilla townies always defeat the team of three when they just vote correctly from then onward.

And because that works even if scums all vote optimally and shoot optimally and even coordinate as one team, town can actually still brute force the game.

If the teams and scums are correctly named together.

Pleonast wouldnt be behaving as he is and wouldnt have pointed at AA day one if he was on AA team, but he is definitely guilty.

ACS is almost certainly guilty, if not, town was never winning this endgame because we had to make decisions based on the available evidence rather than a shot in the dark.

Which means all you have to do is correctly guess one specific scumbag is on team Archangel, and hope ACS is indeed the godfather of team Archangel

Which ACS should be or everyone wouldnt have been willing to vote for ACS today.

Therefore that sorta proves ACS is not on the larger team.

Which means ACS is Archangel team godfather, and that leaves the remaining member vulnerable.

So you pick from the names APSB and BC to decide if either of them make more sense as Archangel partner than Jan does.

IMO it is Jan, but its obviously open to guessing.

IMO BC and APSB and Pleonast are more obviously coordinating together. Jan is kind of off on her own without AA and with ACS caught.

BC and APSB and Pleonast are making the moves today that win for their faction and want to coordinate with opposing team to make optimal kills.

I have literally done that multiple times that I can cite.

And since he did it in a post thats visible in a manner both prof P and Vanta Black can spot and comprehend why it is open coordination, and why it usually wins for scums, which is why Pleonast would do such a thing, it banks the game on town being unable to do the goal line stand we did in Return of the Clowns.

Which is really hard because its two murders and five targets.

But we can, we just have to literally guess everyone exactly correctly, alignment, team, and vote optimally and never for each other ever again.

Which is super super duper hard to do.

Therefore Pleonast correctly gambled we wouldnt be able to do so, and went for the win by trying to coordinate murders with Archangel team in that post I cited.

Specifically he is trying to take down the town Power roles in unison so the doctor is divided.

But since I am equally as nasty a scumbag as Pleonast and anyone else you can name, I know thats a move. I saw the move. I pointed out the move.

I think I can bring down his entire team and the entire other team because of that move and their other visible moves all game.

If my guess for the setup is currently exactly right, and town believes it, we can brute force the win from here.

The scums cannot actually stop us even if they shoot correctly, vote correctly, and kill two town power roles tonight.

As long as all my guesses are exactly correct for who the scums are and who they are affiliated with.

If I guessed the teams wrong, its more of a crapshoot.

So Prof P and Vanta, double check me very very very closely

And when you make the decision, insist everyone follows you.'

That way I dont gotta convince gnarly or mord or meeko of my good intentions.

Dont make it up to people guessing my alignment right because they cant.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Professor P and Vanta Black

Check previous post very very very carefully. Spend a lot of time on it.

Follow out all the logic, check mine for errors.

I can mess this up, make sure its exactly correct in every detail. Then pull the trigger.

I will follow whatever it is you both decide. Make sure the rest of town does too, without any equivocation.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If SP remains inactive and is town then tiebreaks will continue to matter for the entire duration and we lose to a tiebreak that falls the wrong way.

But like, mechanically the game host cannot end the game with even an inactive SP town.

So we still have a chance if only because he technically exists and could be town.

Every body matters. Even if they are literally just a body, and nothing else.

So everyone vote early, vote together, and make sure town wins all remaining tiebreaks.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I prefer Pleo to ACS, if we have to choose one.

For clarity, because my position has changed three times here.

Presently, based on my final bit of reasoning, there is a path to brute force the game for town by eliminating Archangel team as soon as possible, which means you hit ACS first and whoever is the third partner second, tonight or tomorrow.

You cant allow Archangel team to get off two more shots, otherwise town lacks the numbers to win.

So you vote ACS. But listen to Prof and Vanta if they override it and a multivote is legal and whatnot and we can hit Pleo at the same time without dividing town vote.

[Vanta Black]

Okay. It's after midnight and I am drinking coffee (because coffee is WARM). I have no idea if it helps my thinking but I am pouring out my thoughts so you morning people can read them. Or, you know, not.

1. We do NOT have multivote, but we can wrap two. If my math is right if we have two wagons with 4 votes apiece.

2. It looked to me like Pleo was signaling his team to arrange to split votes. Alternatively, signaling the other team who to take out. Like, "you take out guiri, we'll take out Vanta."

3. That is one reason I claimed. Throw down a little wine. N1 the town doc protected Prof. P as the only claimed town PR but this way, could have gone either way.

4. I said I would shoot either A.C. Singer or Pleo. This was basically so that Prof. P wouldn't investigate either one of them, so we wouldn't hit the same player (again). Later I said it would be ACS.

5. I then debated whether to just shoot someone else and assume Town would figure it out, but decided against it and aimed at ACS. Who also made a reference to this decision in the N2 thread.

6. NOW, as to whether he's a GF, this cannot be established, because the scum docs don't have to protect the GF, they can doc anyone except themselves. Silverjan pointed out that scum could doc ACS no matter which team he was on just to mess with town; Prof. P thinks they wouldn't have done that and left the GF unprotected. Me, I don't know about that. But that makes it harder to tell who's on whose team.

incoming

[Vanta Black]

No real here but some

My preference would be to take out the Mariahs so there would only be one town kill per night assuming a trigger-happy vig (that would be me) doesn't misshoot.

But: I think Silverjan is a Mariah, I don't know about Annoying Christmas Singer. With that name he would make a great Mariah. Perfect fit. Of course he chose the name before knowing his alignment.

I do not know that ACS is a godfather, could be, probably is. I have a lot more of a sense that Pleonast is. But if we take out both GFs that still disables the Mariahs. GF can't protect him/herself, scum doc can't doc him/herself.

If by some fluke ACS and Pleo are on the same team, that still hobbles one scum team, probably not the Mariahs. The GF will still read as town to the cop, but can't be protected. Except by the other scum team, and why would that happen?

We might get some help in either case from the other scum team as they need to kill each other, too. So with that in mind going after the Mariahs does make sense.

[Vanta Black]

As promised. A little morning reading here. The case for and against trusting pizza is town. LONG.

(Full disclosure: if I had not borked the D2 vote and Silverjan also had not done a similar thing, he would be gone, I think. Well, I don't know about Silverjan, I do know about me. So which way does the luck fall here?) 1. In his first post (or anyway an early one) The teal “not today” posters were Pleonast Dizzy Bashorian Clement Meeko Annoying Christmas Singer Suburban Plankton I said this didn’t agree with my list--without actually giving my list, some of them did agree, like Dizzy and Meeko. The rejoinder was that he just got in the game and hadn’t read. Okay. That was D2. On D3 he now agrees with most of my list, which my top two include two people on his “not today” list. 2. I have some private scumtells, formulated by going through and seeing who used them more, scum or town. And he hit them. These, by the way, are not tells listed in Pizza’s Guide, or they might be, I haven’t read the whole thing. Anyway he hit a couple. This is not a biggie because town do them too. I mentioned one of them, which is “flipping XXX will give us information on YYY,” because, duh, flipping YYY will also give information on YYY. I might have been particularly sensitive because player XXX was ME, and I have been playing the game, and player YYY was Annoying Christmas Singer, who has not. Again: people also do this when they’re town; I’ve seen it more often as scum. I have not read nearly as many games as Pizza. 3. Hits the “I’m town” thing pretty hard including saying he’s voting BillMc with two hardworking townies. Bothers me when people do this but I have certainly seen Pizza do this as town. 4. In the next post after giving his town leans he states he has only the thinnest of reasons NOT to vote Pleonast and Singer. This was approximately 15 minutes after the first post. 5. Came down hard on BillMc, who was frankly not the towniest player I’ve ever seen, so meh. I can’t fault this, I was very nearly voting BillMc myself. 6. Survived the night, nobody tried to kill him, that doesn’t make any sense because it seems like a scum team he wasn’t on would definitely try to kill him, and there were two of them. So possibly they didn’t want to both hit the same player? now onto: Reasons why pizza might be town 1. Changes his reads as he goes along. This is kind of a town tell for me, and for a lot of people, not that it hasn’t occasionally led me astray. But see #2. 2. Did not appear to know that scum cannot talk in Day phases, or that there was no Night 0 before the game. Town tell, is pizza a good enough player to know that? To fake these town tells? Fuck yeah, but…he was getting up to speed fast. Yes, he could be pretending not to know that, but it didn’t read that way. 3. He is saying things that make sense from a Town perspective, picking up on things other people have noted, from a Town perspective. 4. Probably illogical but when people quickly read me as Town I get a little suspicious, this doesn’t make any sense. Well, pizza did not immediately read me as town, and after the last time we played that definitely makes sense, if he remembers. 5. Desperate hope. If nothing else he’s livened up the game and gotten a few people more involved. There was a lot of apathy. 6. NKs, I don’t think scum pizza would have hit raven who voted for him, even though the other scum team might well feel that was a good idea to maybe frame him. scum-pizza might have hit dizzy, as he’d cleared her. Night action bingo, who knows. 7. And finally, quite aside from whether pizza is really Town and acting in Town’s best interest, his ideas line up pretty well with mine and I am definitely acting in Town’s interest.

TLDR: I was ready to vote pizza out yesterday and earlier today, now I have decided to trust him, time will tell if this is correct or just more lunatic play.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

No real here but some

My preference would be to take out the Mariahs so there would only be one town kill per night assuming a trigger-happy vig (that would be me) doesn't misshoot.

But: I think Silverjan is a Mariah, I don't know about Annoying Christmas Singer. With that name he would make a great Mariah. Perfect fit. Of course he chose the name before knowing his alignment.

I do not know that ACS is a godfather, could be, probably is. I have a lot more of a sense that Pleonast is. But if we take out both GFs that still disables the Mariahs. GF can't protect him/herself, scum doc can't doc him/herself.

If by some fluke ACS and Pleo are on the same team, that still hobbles one scum team, probably not the Mariahs. The GF will still read as town to the cop, but can't be protected. Except by the other scum team, and why would that happen?

We might get some help in either case from the other scum team as they need to kill each other, too. So with that in mind going after the Mariahs does make sense.

You must think I really suck at being scum. Why the hell would I have tried to talk people out of lynching AA if I had been her scum buddy? Stop going down that particular rabbit hole and look elsewhere.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

This is possible. And yet... I don't know. I don't like to be fooled by Jan. Not voting here today and she would not be my second or third choice. Leave it at that.

I'm not fooling you, I am Town. A very irritated Town to be sure but Town all the same.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

As promised. A little morning reading here. The case for and against trusting pizza is town. LONG.


TLDR: I was ready to vote pizza out yesterday and earlier today, now I have decided to trust him, time will tell if this is correct or just more lunatic play.

Don't trust pizza.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

My second choice is pizza. My third is Mordenkainen who can take his eyeball rolling "snuggling" accusation over to pizza. Then pick two from Pleonast, gnarlycharlie and Suburban Plankton.

Suburban Plankton hasn't been around for ages so it make it difficult to judge him. I was more or less convinced that guiri was scum so maybe gnarly would be a good choice. Pleo I just can't read at all, ever.

[Meeko]

Holy crap, Pizza.

The amount of posts, let alone their length, for each one.

Assuming that it's worthwhile content.


I'm not sure scum would do that.


I'm also not sure, frankly, town would do it, either.

I'm going to say that I think it's NAI.

Pizza is going to Pizza, so I think it's a Pizza Tell, but. Just not sure what to do with all of it.

Prof. Where are you with Pizza?

[Meeko]

This became a can worms guys. Sorry.



TLR

Unvoting Pizza

Voting ACS

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I'm not sure how to correctly put distance into (or out of) the things I get attached to.

This goes for the immediate with Pizza.

It honestly, frankly still exists with Pleo.

There is no such baggage with Annoying Christmas Singer. Yes. I know that they are a sock. I know that they are piling on the "annoying" which doesn't help the situation we now find ourselves in.

Not that it helped the situation before that.

Not that it helped, ever.

It's finally at a point in the game where we need more weight being pulled by them. I'm not sure that I am the one that can say that, with full weight, given all that I am, and am not doing in this game, but, it is where I am now. And possibly, is part of the reason I am there.




And.

Yes. Oh, yes, I did mention that I can't put distance into things? That I feel attached to things? That, and as much as I hate it, I know that it is true ((Whomever said it, years and years ago now)) that once "Meeko has his bone" he doesn't let it go....


I still feel that ACS .... Basically, is Mahaloth. That's the farthest out I will go with that. The real answer is closer to that end point, than being a ""regular"" role, and further distance before returning to my origin of vanilla town.

That is, I think ACS could well be something we don't know yet. Hopefully not an instant lose or bomb .... I'm sure the role already exists, but the only thing I keep going back to, is "" The goose that lays the golden eggs "" . And that, we, town, should not kill them.


My convictions here are more in the fact that I know I have sub-par play. It handcuffs me into certain plays that probably aren't the best. And, if you unvote someone, and vote another person in the same post, it's probably still that same situation.



All of that said, I am at a point in this game, where I can get behind voting ACS, in spite of all of these. Because of consensus. Some quote of never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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Bonus Round ::

1. I am asking the game to spitball / open sky this for a second. Search for an answer here. As they say on Pawn Stars, "Give me your I woldn't even sell it to you at that price" price. Go far, far, far out there for an answer.

Is there anyway on earth that a townie can prove that they are not Godfather Scum?

1B. Would you believe that I have done so?

1C. Probably not.

1D. The easier of these two, would be that ::

""Meeko has yet again backed into something, that, with faith, and .... tilting one post, ever so slightly, _could_ be seen to be a retro-active breadcrumb that he himself, didn't even know he crafted, until after he hit submit.""

The residue of thought crime that plagued me on Titanic had an echo. I think.


But, I've lost all of you on this, at this point, I'm sure.


Would you guys believe me / humor me / hear me out on such a thing If ... When I had? (And to be clear, I have)

.


2. Mafia is akin to Texas Hold Em, in so much as that the hole cards [Role] one is dealt ..... means the least. Reveals are the flop, turn and river.

Yes?

2B. That, I really need to stop being a wishful kid in a candy store, that is boggled and incapable of focus onto the actual reality of the fiances I came in with, much less the candies that are in the store today, much less candies that exist*.

If I could do that. I think my play would be better.

Again, I wouldn't be ""Meeko"" though.

And, Mafia, frankly, wouldn't be the game I thought it was. [[At large, as a construct, not speaking to any given set-up]]

I mean, .... Frankly, I think that there is a permanent naivety on my part here. And if that ever gets fixed, then Me playing Mafia gets broken. That is, I would lose desire to play it. --- That, It is almost at a point in time, that I do love hitting myself in the head with a hammer, because stopping feels so good.

[[This is obviously the joke, and I quote it, because I know that (hopefully) it resonates. The problem is, I'm not sure if I'm only half joking or that Truth here, is said in jest. --- I have an unhealthy psychological break here, that simultaneously wants me to keep playing mafia, poorly. ]]

At present, I'm not sure which state takes priority, and yet I tell myself I can still solve both, in the same breath as using a final word such as permanent.


* C.F. the entire like, pamphlet I just wrote on why I Should/Shouldn't be voting ACS, despite, unvoting Pizza to do so.






And to think, some people call all of this a game.

[Annoying Christmas Singer]

1. Pizza, when did you jump into this? But I would like a large supreme pizza.

2. Vanta- I’m surprised that I’m still alive, to be honest. Figured I would be shot and dead, but alas, someone likes my singing, I think.

On the second day of Christmas, Vanta gave to me
Two frozen birds
And a gallon of eggnog to drown me in

[Annoying Christmas Singer]

Meeko- I can assure you that I am not Mahaloth. Mahaloth would not do that, period.

[Pleonast]

With teams at 7-3-2 and executions at 4-4, we do not have control of the second execution. Better to not.

[gnarlycharlie]

Hi all. My participation will take a hit. 18 of our people tested positive and many others in quarantine after the new year so we're short-staffed. I'm also the only senior manager allowed to go to the office. Sucks.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

With teams at 7-3-2 and executions at 4-4, we do not have control of the second execution. Better to not.

Yes. Town has control over both executions. It doesn't have enough to carry them both to the finish line, something the other scum faction DOES have an interest in. If they're scummy they should be voted. Period.

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I take that back. I thought I read it took 4 to limthe primary.

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Meeko is town

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

4) Silverjan:

Wanted AA to live, and wanted pizza to die, but didnt vote for pizza.

Reluctantly voted for Swammi eventually day one, never voted day two.

Like APSB, no vote day two while being active means not playing for town, in addition to the above.

I absolutely believe a town Silverjan who suspects pizza will vote pizza. Therefore she is guilty.

Four of five.

Was her twilight vote a put-on?

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It's bugging me that ATP is asking no questions except to himself, and those he answers.