Masks at Midnight - Night 0

[Red Skeezix]

It was a crisp autumn night in Dunwich, MA. The townsfolk had gathered at the local parish for for a meeting to discuss preparations for the upcoming halloween and harvest dance. The sign-in sheet indicated that:

1. Meeko
2. Mahaloth
3. guiri
4. Colby11
5. Bashorian Clement
6. Bicycle Repair Man
7. TexCat
8. raventhief
9. Pleonast
10. Mordenkainen
11. Lightfoot

Were present that evening.

The wind began to howl, and rotten branches of an old oak tree banged against the roof of the weathered chapel. With a crack, the lights flickered and then went out. Thus began the first night of the rest of their very short lives.



It is now night zero. PMs are going out presently. If you have a night action please send it to me upon receipt of your PM. Otherwise, you may begin strategizing and Day 1 will begin at 8pm ET on October 12th, 2022.

[Red Skeezix]

All PMs have gone out, feel free to confirm receipt here or start it up.

[Meeko]

Lock and load.

Confirming.

[LightFoot]

I am not sure how this is going to work- but I can confirm - my existence

[Bashorian Clement]

Could there be multiples of the same role?

[LightFoot]

we have 17 possible Town roles
11 total players
I started trying to breakdown the role meanings and decided it is folly

Scum possible 5 roles same.

If there is claiming maybe there can be POE logic

[Red Skeezix]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Could there be multiples of the same role?

No Comment

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Red Skeezix

No Comment

BALLS

[raventhief]

I am here... But about Day1...


Day 1 will begin at 8pm ET on October 11th, 2022.. wasn't that two hours ago?

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by raventhief

I am here... But about Day1...


Day 1 will begin at 8pm ET on October 11th, 2022.. wasn't that two hours ago?

ARG
I am going to bed

[Red Skeezix]

Originally Posted by raventhief

I am here... But about Day1...


Day 1 will begin at 8pm ET on October 11th, 2022.. wasn't that two hours ago?

Correction. October 12th. Whoops.

[TexCat]

PM received. I've got a role and am ready to play.

[Pleonast]

Chew on this, scumbos: I’m a Private Eye.

[Pleonast]

And I’m going to only vote players who haven’t made a specific claim.

[Colby11]

Serious question- pizza or bread?

PM received

[Red Skeezix]

Originally Posted by Colby11

Serious question- pizza or bread?

PM received

yes

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

And I’m going to only vote players who haven’t made a specific claim.

What if they all claim?

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

And I’m going to only vote players who haven’t made a specific claim.

For as famous [Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye 007, Killer Instinct, Battletoads, Wizards and Warriors] and infamous [Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Beetlejuice, Silent Service] as video game company Rare [Rareware] was, I claim that the music they made was a thousand times better, and yes, they should have been in the record industry, exclusively.

[guiri]

Confirming receipt of PM!

[Bashorian Clement]

P

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man

What if they all claim?

Who is this they you speak of?

[Mordenkainen]

Have received PM.

The likelihood of all of us specifically claiming so as to foil Pleo's plan is as close to zero as makes no difference. The futility of herding cats applies.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

P

Who is this they you speak of?

The other players who may or may not claim. Who is the you that speaks of the you and the they?

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by Mordenkainen

Have received PM.

The likelihood of all of us specifically claiming so as to foil Pleo's plan is as close to zero as makes no difference. The futility of herding cats applies.

I am not so sure about that.

[Pleonast]

Death doesn’t reveal anything, but dead players have a vote and can still provide information. That radically changes the decision between claiming and not claiming.

I don’t expect everyone to claim while alive, so they can claim when dead. Let’s speed up that process.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

I claim I am not rich. I claim I am not poor. I have a wife, a dog and a house. And I claim that I want no more.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Death doesn’t reveal anything, but dead players have a vote and can still provide information. That radically changes the decision between claiming and not claiming.

I don’t expect everyone to claim while alive, so they can claim when dead. Let’s speed up that process.

What's the town motivation in wanting everyone dead?

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Meeko

What's the town motivation in wanting everyone dead?

Town needs information to win, scum want to stop town from getting information. Players who give specific information are more likely to be town, because they are actually helping town. Players who don't want to give specific information are more likely to be scum, because they are actually helping scum.

A player can be coy if they want, but in this game, where there are no death reveals, all they are doing is delaying town from getting information. We won't learn who's scum by executing anyone. We have to figure out who's scum by putting together our puzzle pieces--which we only discover when players make specific claims.

[Pleonast]

For those opposed to making specific claims, they need to describe exactly how they think town is going to win this game by players not making specific claims.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

For those opposed to making specific claims, they need to describe exactly how they think town is going to win this game by players not making specific claims.

I don't have time for this. Yet again.

You can't take game hostage.

Claiming on day 1 is your thing. It's not ours.

More importantly, it's not this game's thing, either.

Play this game. Not yours.

And this is NAI. Just the same as all claims ate bound to be also.

[guiri]

I’m not opposed to making specific claims, but each player can decide when the time is right.

[Pleonast]

Meeko, describe to us how you see town winning this game.

[Pleonast]

guiri, my point is that if some players decide "I'll make a specific claim after I'm dead", it's better for us to make it so.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Meeko, describe to us how you see town winning this game.

Suffice to say, both this, and your other demand that we claim on your speed and terms, both amount to the same fishing expedition.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by Meeko

Suffice to say, both this, and your other demand that we claim on your speed and terms, both amount to the same fishing expedition.

I think anybody and everybody should be discussing how we can win the game rather than leaving it to luck.

[Pleonast]

Meeko, of course I'm fishing! The only information we get this game is from what players claim. The regular default plan of "execute players we think are scum and see what is revealed" is not possible this game. I've provided an alternative. If you're unhappy with my plan, give the other players a better one.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Meeko, of course I'm fishing! The only information we get this game is from what players claim. The regular default plan of "execute players we think are scum and see what is revealed" is not possible this game. I've provided an alternative. If you're unhappy with my plan, give the other players a better one.

At least you admit it.

For the second half... Would you settle for an Unvote instead?

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

guiri, my point is that if some players decide "I'll make a specific claim after I'm dead", it's better for us to make it so.

I get your point.

There are so many roles. Everyone is free to do as they see fit but some roles do lend themselves to claiming early while others don't.

I guess Gossip and Innkeepeer could claim the role D1, and then use their info to confirm/disprove one of the three players' claims, they are effectively vanilla after D1 besides this info, and can use the info even when dead. For the Gossip, sharing that 1 of those roles are in play is strongly pro-town.
Private Eye and Janitor. similar, good to know one, and how many scum roles are n the game.
Therapist too.
Seer and Mortician should hold their claim, unless there's evidence of a Priest.
Priest and Veteran should not claim.
Harbinger, Politician, Servant no pressing need to claim.
Vigilante effectively claims when using power.
Patsy cannot claim... unless the Gossip helps them deduce their role, or they do it themselves based on their false role info
White Rose should claim, or at least when there's a whiff of yeet pressure.
And I think best practice is for any miller to claim asap, but don't remember if it's auto-vig, or if there is some other strategy to differentiate a true miller from a false-claiming scum.
Clearly the cult leader and publicist should claim asap N0. The Acolyte, Spy and Financier should wait till after EoD D1.

[Colby11]

Originally Posted by Meeko

For as famous [Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye 007, Killer Instinct, Battletoads, Wizards and Warriors] and infamous [Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Beetlejuice, Silent Service] as video game company Rare [Rareware] was, I claim that the music they made was a thousand times better, and yes, they should have been in the record industry, exclusively.

Donkey Kong Country 2 was my jam growing up… finally beat the entire thing too after several months (when I was 12-ish)

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Colby11

Donkey Kong Country 2 was my jam growing up… finally beat the entire thing too after several months (when I was 12-ish)

I don't see any form of a denial here, that the music was in truth, marginally to just slightly more than marginally, better than the gameplay. better than the gameplay.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Colby11

Donkey Kong Country 2 was my jam growing up… finally beat the entire thing too after several months (when I was 12-ish)

I had Goldeneye on the living room tv, would do that until I had to run out to the school bus.

[Meeko]

1. I can't vote at night. No one can. Silly Meeko!

2. Completely forgot about the entire nominating thing.




But seriously. Pleonast, The fact that voting has a detour for this game, were you aware of this detour in the voting vis a vis nominations, as you posted for your claims?

[Pleonast]

Yes, I've been trying to understand the rules. Note my comment in the sign-up thread.

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Potential exploit: players who can post the soonest will have an advantage.

I assumed you were intentionally making an uncounted vote, like I often do.

[Red Skeezix]

Day 1 has started. Thread is up.