Masks at Midnight - Day 2

[Pleonast]

Are you okay with not executing raventhief if the vig fails?

I'd rather execute the known Scum before moving on to the next, but I won't really argue if others are okay with it.

[Pleonast]

As an aside, the reason I'm playing extra aggressive this game is because:
1) rules require immediate, coordinated action by Town if we're to have any chance of winning.
1) my one-shot role is done, and if Scum Night-kill me, it simply changes me from likely Town to very likely Town, while not preventing me from continuing to be aggressive about coordinating us.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by guiri

Meeko, if Bashorian truly is the child and Raventhief did not die immediately upon nominating him, we can deduce that Raven is scum and so you should vote to absolve Bashorian asap so we can nominate Raventhief and execute her.

The only way Raventhief is Town is if Bashorian is not the Child, which has a non-zero probability but lower than Raventhief being scum in my opinion.

Ah, I was thinking I couldn't absolve, because I had not voted. That my absolved needed me to have voted first.


Absolve Bashorian Clement

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Are you okay with not executing raventhief if the vig fails?

I'd rather execute the known Scum before moving on to the next, but I won't really argue if others are okay with it.

I just re-read the vigilante role, it only works if Raven is the cult leader, so maybe we should wait then. Can we get six votes lined up for tomorrow?

[TexCat]

I'll be here to vote.

And yes, it only works on cult leader.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by guiri

The Day ends immediately upon execution, so no chance to have two, but certainly getting the absolution out of the way opens the path to a new nomination and time to get 6 votes.

I don't see where the Day ends immediately.

[guiri]

“If the group has resolved to execute the nominated player the day will end immediately (it will be announced as soon as the moderator returns).”

[Bashorian Clement]

Thank you

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

If the vig fails, we should nominate and execute raventhief. I think a majority of us can agree on that.

If the vig succeeds, I say we should nominate and execute LightFoot. Who supports that, and who opposes? And if you oppose, name a specific player you want to nominate instead.

I support this plan and will be here to vote when necessary.

[Mordenkainen]

absolve Bashorian Clement

We should have about 26 hours to execute Taventhief after Bashorian is cleared of the threat Today.

[raventhief]

I think my feelings should be hurt. My friends are plotting my death.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by raventhief

I think my feelings should be hurt. My friends are plotting my death.

Death is only a slight inconvenience in this game.

[Red Skeezix]

Sorry to be brief but, I'm a bit rushed: No comments other than nomination from yesterday did not pass.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Red Skeezix

Sorry to be brief but, I'm a bit rushed: No comments other than nomination from yesterday did not pass.

Even if this wasn't a double negative, I still wouldn't understand it.

[Pleonast]

Okay, vig failed, so on to the next step.

nominate raventhief

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Meeko

Even if this wasn't a double negative, I still wouldn't understand it.

I see what you did there.

[Mordenkainen]

.

"... then ’twere well it were done quickly ..."

[Bashorian Clement]

[Colby11]

Apologies for not posting a lot. I have been following the game but just haven’t had a need to reply… plus I have no opinions of people right now… alot of claims and idk how to proceed, even with the fact that there are no reveals etc.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

[raventhief]

absolve raventhief

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Death is only a slight inconvenience in this game.

But an inconvenience nonetheless.

*Sigh*

[TexCat]

[LightFoot]

I have a bit o time

my assistant was fired last afternoon 10 hr days for me now = tired bug

How did we get here

Originally Posted by Pleonast

And the winners of Night Zero are
Bicycle Repair Man
Mordenkainen
TexCat
one of who is
The Publicist.

Did they get me first? Am I actually a Patsy?
I can't know and neither can you, unless other players decide to help Town.

Originally Posted by Meeko

Yeah, about that.....

Bold has been added.

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Hey, I'm the Seer and each night, I can look at two players to see if they are the Cult Leader. Not scum in general, just if they are specifically the Cult Leader.

Meeko and Guiri are NOT the Cult Leader. Nice, but hardly cleared from being scum entirely.

Odds are Pleo is the patsy in my mind- But he seems to be driving

Originally Posted by TexCat

It's good to know that I am not likely to be the Patsy. Thanks Meeko!

Updating Guiri's summary:
- Pleo - Private Eye - one of Bicycle Repair Man, Mordenkainen and TexCat is the Publicist
- Texcat - not Publicist
- Bicycle Repair Man - claims not Publicist but has received info
- Bashorian - Child
- Meeko - Gossip - one of Pleo, Mahaloth and Guiri is Patsy
- Guiri - Therapist - neither of Mahaloth and Colby are scum
- Mahaloth - Seer - neither of Meeko and Guiri are the Cult Leader

raven nominates the claimed child and is not smitten - so not the cult leader
The claimed vig posts to vig raven and raven is not smitten -so not the cult leader
I recall comments about the publicist but we can't know if we have one
Do I have the right of it?

[LightFoot]

NETA it appears the threshold has been reached - read me anyway

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by TexCat

It's good to know that I am not likely to be the Patsy. Thanks Meeko!

Is there ever any town motivation to word this, this way?

[guiri]

[Mordenkainen]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

raven nominates the claimed child and is not smitten - so not the cult leader
The claimed vig posts to vig raven and raven is not smitten -so not the cult leader
I recall comments about the publicist but we can't know if we have one
Do I have the right of it?

There is an error in that analysis.

The Child's role description (from the rules): -

Originally Posted by Red Skeezix

Child - The first time you are nominated, if the player who nominated you is a townsfolk they will be executed immediately.

The first player to nominate the Child will die if they are Town, not if they are the Cult Leader. The likely conclusion is that Raventhief is a Cultist, but not the Cult Leader.

As for the Publicist, Pleo made a claim to be the Private Eye early in N0 and in D1 that either Bicycle Repair Man, TexCat or I are the Publicist. Reread N0 and the first page of D1.

My problem is that Pleo claimed so early that there is a good chance (if the Publicist exists) that they could have meddled with Pleo's results because they can act in N0. There is also the possibility that Pleo is the Patsy, as Meeko has claimed Gossip and Pleo is one of the candidates for the Patsy role.

I tend to believe this claim, so it is possible that Pleo is the Patsy. Chances rise as Mahaloth was eliminated last Night, and had claimed Seer quickly, thus making him a choice target (if true).

Whether Pleo is the Patsy or the Private Eye, he is Town and therefore we can trust his analyses and statements about his motives. His info not so much. At the moment I lwan towards a Townie Pleo. He's just wrong about me; I can't say about the others, but have noted TexCat's implicit claim.

Right now I'm seeing Mafiates every where, so I need to clear the brain and formulate some cases.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Mordenkainen

He's just wrong about me;

This statement increases my suspicion of you manyfold.

Someone with a less guilty mindset would note that my Private-Eye result clears two players while accusing one. You jump straight to denying the accusation.

[Pleonast]

Mine alignment scorecard:

Confirmed Town:
Pleonast: I got a message from the moderator.

Very Likely Town:
Mahaloth: because Night-killed.

Likely Town:
Bicycle Repair Man: town-slip about lack of Scum coordination.
TexCat: if Mordenkainen is Publicist, likely Town.
Meeko: if Gossip.

Maybe Town:
guiri: if Patsy or Therapist.
Colby11: if guiri is Therapist.

Unwashed Masses:
Bashorian Clement

Likely Scum:
LightFoot: no Townie actions.
raventhief: no Townie actions.
Mordenkainen: defensive reaction to Private-Eye result.

[Pleonast]

Sorry for editing; kept wanting to add in more info.

[Pleonast]

I don't know that I've actually solved the game at this point, but it does seem the most likely solution at this point.

For fun times, I suggest that the Cult Leader kill one of LightFoot or Mordenkainen.

[Mordenkainen]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

... my Private-Eye result clears two players while accusing one.

I don't agree with this. When you gave your results, you accused three people. The cloud of suspicion falls on the three of us equally. It does not clear anyone.

Other information, such as role reveals of those accused, is necessary to focus the accusation down on one person. I believe that you focus on me because you like my style of play less than the others, and are therefore always suspicious of me.

This is complicated by the lack of role information on the dead.

[Red Skeezix]

Oh, hey day is done night has started!