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Old 31st December 2022, 03:06 PM
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Yeetmas 4 - Day 4 "Triple Santa Whammy...with a cherry on top"

Mendie Taoma is now dead. They were an Ordinary Mall Santa. Town.

Mikomiya is also dead. They were the Mall Santa Vigilante. Town.

Kaiveran is also dead. They were the Mall Santa Cop. Town.


Three Santas died during the Night, which means three wraps are available.

First wrap - Automatic and goes to top vote getter.

Second wrap - 3 total votes needed.

Third wrap - 1 vote needed(must also have first two wraps)

Day will end on Thursday, January 5 at 7 PM Eastern. Here is the countdown for that:

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdow...7&font=cursive

And here is that very useful vote counter:

https://www.giraffeboards.com/mafia_votecount.php
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Old 31st December 2022, 03:45 PM
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Wow, 3 town deaths and I’m not one of them. I’m actually a bit surprised. I expected to go last night.
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Old 31st December 2022, 04:30 PM
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Miko wrapped Mendie, the Elves wrapped Kai and the Mariah Godfather (MG) wrapped Miko. There are several reasons why Mariah might have wrapped Miko.

1. Miko is a strong player, likely to guess out MG.
2. Miko already had MG in sight.
3. Miko was "obvious" Town, unable to be Day-wrapped.
4. Miko was the Vigilante.

Even I guessed that Miko was the real Vig when he started claiming Vig for me. Perhaps Mariah did also. But that Mariah would have had to have been afraid of being Vigged by Miko. Who fits that bill? Burma Shave? Renata? APSB?? With all the posts I'm confused.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Nine of us are left; six are Town. We want a 3-3 vote to Wrap two Scum and do not have Kai, the semi-confirmed Town who could lead us.

But I think there's a way forward.

Suspicions were raised against Raventhief, Burma Shave, and APSB as possible Scum.

I nominate those left over — Dizzy, LightFoot, TexCat, Jackie and Renata — to form a Town Council, charged with selecting the two Wrappees. Swammi will stand aside and do my duty toward the 3-3 vote when the candidates are selected by the Town Council.
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Old 31st December 2022, 05:22 PM
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But that Mariah would have had to have been afraid of being Vigged by Miko. Who fits that bill? Burma Shave? Renata? APSB?? With all the posts I'm confused.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Nine of us are left; six are Town. We want a 3-3 vote to Wrap two Scum ...

I nominate those left over — Dizzy, LightFoot, TexCat, Jackie and Renata — to form a Town Council, charged with selecting the two Wrappees. Swammi will stand aside and do my duty toward the 3-3 vote when the candidates are selected by the Town Council.
I just realized. 3-3-1, 4-3-1-1, etc. all lead to TRIPLE Wrap! I'd still like the Council to nominate the two choices for the 3-3 please. I'd say we're getting either a Triple Wrap toDay OR — (could we be this stupid?) — a Single Wrap.
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Old 31st December 2022, 09:25 PM
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Happy New Year to all Santa and Scum whichever way you be.
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Old 1st January 2023, 04:29 AM
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so things seem to be speeding up and getting more confusing, not less. I don't know who to trust.

it's just like real life.

but emojis work again! Happy New Year!
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Old 1st January 2023, 05:18 AM
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Swam, or someone can you do me a favor.
I’m on my phone in browser. It’s tiny and I’m hung over from last night. And I’m hostin 15 people and 3 dogs in a few hours….

Can someone post the current player list, with Kai’s results colored and dead colored?
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Old 1st January 2023, 05:53 AM
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A Poor Shepherd Boy
Burma Shave
Dizzymrslizzy
JackieLikesV1ariety
Lightfoot
raventhief
Renata
Swammerdami
Texcat

Askthepizzaguy was the Mariah Carey Doctor wrapped D1
Gnarlycharlie was wrapped during Night 1. He was an Ordinary Mall Santa. Vanilla Town.

Halfrize is dead D2. They were an Ordinary Mall Santa. Vanilla Town.
Red Skeezix is wrapped N2. He was the Mariah Carey Backup Doctor. Scum.
Pleonast is wrapped N2. He was an Ordinary Mall Santa. Vanilla Town.
Guiri is wrapped N2. He was the Mall Santa Doctor. Town.


Bashorian Clement was wrapped D3. He was the Shelf Elf Godfather. Scum.
Mendie Taoma is dead N3. They were an Ordinary Mall Santa. Town.
Mikomiya is also dead N3. They were the Mall Santa Vigilante. Town.
Kaiveran is also dead N3. They were the Mall Santa Cop. Town.
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Old 1st January 2023, 05:54 AM
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I forgot Kai's results: Pleo and Renata are town.
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Old 1st January 2023, 07:02 AM
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Here are Miko's latest reads, I think:
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Originally Posted by Mikomiya
So my current solve is:

Town:
Kai
Ren
APSB

Town Reads but not as confident:
Mendie
Swammerdami
Dizzy

Elves
Bashorian
One of <Lightfoot/TexCat>
One of <Raven/Jackie>



Mariah
One of <Burma/Raven>
So why did Miko Vig-kill Mendie? I think he must have had higher suspicion, but kept it secret knowing Mendie was not a candidate for Day-Wrap. He didn't want Elf Doctor to protect Mendie. (Of course we needn't worry about that BC gone: Elf Doc will be protecting the Elf Backup no matter what.)

Why did Mariah Night-Kill Miko? Perhaps because he had a correct hunch of the 3rd Mariah: Burma Shave or Raventhief. (He once considered Renata the likely Mariah Godfather but Day 2 in posts 203 and 215 he moved his suspicion to Burma Shave.)

So my nominees for the Double Wrap are Burma Shave and Raventhief.

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Old 1st January 2023, 07:09 AM
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Mendie Taoma is now dead. They were an Ordinary Mall Santa. Town.

Mikomiya is also dead. They were the Mall Santa Vigilante. Town.

Kaiveran is also dead. They were the Mall Santa Cop. Town.

I sincerely hope I caused scum to waste effort on me.

Like, seriously, the thought that I would gain attention on me, after my last OOG comments, did indeed cross my mind.

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And, finally, a video I have been holding on to, in case I died before a game of Mafia ended.


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Old 1st January 2023, 07:56 AM
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...figures.
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Old 1st January 2023, 01:25 PM
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Mwahaha I am dead as well

It's nice you should try it, very relaxing. The peace part of rest in peace is quite real.
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Old 1st January 2023, 01:34 PM
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This place is infested with ghosts!

I'm surprised to be alive as well. I thought I'd be vigged.
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Old 1st January 2023, 02:20 PM
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I have convinced myself that he is mariah godfather. I want him wrapped today, but will consider moving to insure a multiple wrap today.
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Old 1st January 2023, 07:23 PM
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Towny: Burma Shave, raventhief, Renata (not willing to vote)
Middling: TexCat, Lightfoot, Dizzy, Swammerdami (Possibly willing to vote)
Scummy: Jackielikesvariety (will vote)

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Old 1st January 2023, 08:52 PM
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I'm just about done with kicking myself Mendie I thought you were an Elf

Sorry Mendie!

recalibrating in light of new information...
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Old 2nd January 2023, 12:52 PM
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Burma Shave (2): Swammerdami (10), TexCat (15)
Jackielikesvariety (1): A Poor Shepherd Boy (16)
Burma Shave would be wrapped if nothing changed. No second or third wrapping would occur at this point.
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Old 2nd January 2023, 04:58 PM
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Suspicions were raised against Raventhief, Burma Shave, and APSB as possible Scum.

I nominate those left over — Dizzy, LightFoot, TexCat, Jackie and Renata — to form a Town Council, charged with selecting the two Wrappees. Swammi will stand aside and do my duty toward the 3-3 vote when the candidates are selected by the Town Council.
I am puzzled by this and also surprised that nobody replied to you.

why do you want to "stand aside"? and I feel like more people than that had suspicions raised against them.

is A Poor Shepard Boy voting for me because I'm scummy? Since I'm not, he must have some other reason.

I guess this makes him suspicious.
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Old 2nd January 2023, 06:54 PM
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Jackie so far you have voted for me, Renata, and Mendie. At least two of these votes are on Mall Santas. You ask a lot of newbie questions, which is fine for Newbies, but there doesn't seem to be any connecting thread of thoughts behind the questions and your actions. Why did you vote for me D1? Then drop me for Renata D2? And then drop Renata for Mendie D3?

If you are Town, convince me. Tell me your train of thought.
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Old 2nd January 2023, 07:18 PM
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The plan yesterDay was to let Kaiveran — semi-confirmed Townie — pick the two Wrappees. This would have given us Double Wrap except for apathy about the Game. (But study of the vote record might tell us who was trying to save Raventhief from the Wrap.)

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Suspicions were raised against Raventhief, Burma Shave, and APSB as possible Scum.

I nominate those left over — Dizzy, LightFoot, TexCat, Jackie and Renata — to form a Town Council, charged with selecting the two Wrappees. Swammi will stand aside and do my duty toward the 3-3 vote when the candidates are selected by the Town Council.
I am puzzled by this and also surprised that nobody replied to you.

why do you want to "stand aside"? and I feel like more people than that had suspicions raised against them.

is A Poor Shepard Boy voting for me because I'm scummy? Since I'm not, he must have some other reason.

I guess this makes him suspicious.
ToDay we do NOT have a semi-confirmed Townie. I named five players who are not widely thought to be Scum to a "Town Council"; I'll bet at least three of them are Townies. If three on the Council can agree on Wrappees, and other Townies then play along we can get a Double- or Triple-Wrap.

I "stand aside" because (a) I have no strong opinions about who is scum, (b) Some may find me scummy. I intend to vote as a majority on the "Town Council" instructs.

I am also disappointed that none of the Council has designated two Wrappees. (TexCat named one.) I got so impatient I voted already, but to demonstrate my intent to comply with Town Council decision, I shall

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Old 3rd January 2023, 12:56 AM
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Stepping out of little red ragtop to post this. Have given every player a ranking, depending on where I see them. Higher = less scummy.

8. Renata. Likelihood of being conf/town 75%. Have actually never seen a cop hit a GF and BC’s flip makes that even less likely
7. raventhief. The only thing that makes her look not towny to me was Dizzy’s reaction EoD3, absolute refusal to vote her, and defense of her play earlier in the day. I think that’s just Dizzy. Probably town, say 60%.
6. A Poor Shepherd Boy. He was on my D1 list for something to do with pizza’s plan. I never really understood that plan, maybe a little more when Pleonast explained it, and that could be why I thought APSB looked scummy. But less so now. Probably town 55%
5. Dizzymrslizzy. EoD3 she was not very townsided for sure, but that doesn’t make her scum. I think she just has strong convictions, and sometimes they are wrong (BC innocent, flip not revealing anything worthwhile). Sometimes mine are too (Mendie). Still a town lean here but it has gotten more perpendicular. Town lean 51%
4. Swammerdami. Should have some ideas of his own rather than just sheeping the reads of even as accomplished a player as Mikomiya. Who was also wrong about Mendie. Slightly more likely to be scum. Say, 45% town. Also he is scum-reading so many of the players I see as most townie and has been doing that the whole game.
4. JackieLikesVariety. Give her some new player slack, but just because you’re new doesn’t mean you’re town. Town probability 40%.
2. TexCat. Will ISO TexCat in a bit, it won’t take long. Sort of half-cleared by the D1 push by pizza, but that could have been random and she could be an Elf, pizza wouldn’t have known that. Chance that she’s town less than 20%
1. LightFoot. Will ISO LightFoot in a bit and that also won’t take long. Chance of town about the same as TexCat, I’m saying 20%

(I hope those numbers aren’t supposed to add up to 100%)
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Old 3rd January 2023, 01:19 AM
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D1—6 posts, voted for Askthepizza guy, #443
1. First post
2. “The doc can protect the cop every night.” This is a D1 nothingburger.
3. Pizza post look like scum spamming, Pleo’s vig post inconsistent with belief that town players shouldn’t fear death. Voted for Askthepizzaguy.
4. Answers guiry’s question about why vote pizza (the answer was: spamming)
5. Pizza scum, if he were town he’d be reading more
6. Skimmed past toxicity, apologizes if she hurt anyone’s feelings, doesn’t see pizza reacting this way as town.

Okay, nothing damning here but also nothing the least bit controversial or moving the game forward.

D2
8 posts
Voted for Halfrize (#183) But also expressed willingness to vote for Renata, no reasons given
1. Didn’t remember gnarly was playing (quite reasonable, no posts at all); questions why there was only one night death and it wasn’t guiri
2. Docs can’t self-protect (in response to maybe guiri self-protected from Swammi)
3. Talks about others’ town reads, asks why Renata focused on her
4. Response to Renata who had voted her
5. Response to Renata’s response about the above
6. Kai could hold onto town result for awhile
7. BC quoted and commented on her post about the town result “Unless the vig decides they shouldn’t be here” The coment was ???
8. Votes Halfrize (#183), also willing to vote Renata

Suspicion on Renata, bit of shade on Swammi

D3 posts
4 posts
Voted Renata (#47), unvoted after Kai’s innocent result, switched to raventhief (#186)
1. Votes Renata, “tired of being tunneled by you”
2. Unvotes Renata, still thinks she might be GF
3. Votes raventhief “in hopes of a double wrap”
4. Asks ab out 4-4 tie will both players go down

No new suspicious registered, voted raven for the double-wrap without ever saying anything about raven


So TLDR: not very many posts, not a lot of suspicion, and mostly on someone who voted for her, did not mention many other players, or interact much.

Someone did say that quiet TexCat tended to be scum TexCat. This has been a very quiet TexCat.
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Old 3rd January 2023, 01:37 AM
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Well, this is tedious. And I seem to be changing my views as I type. Just taking a little break here. Back later with my thrilling confusion. I mean, conclusion.
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Old 3rd January 2023, 02:02 AM
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Well, this is tedious. And I seem to be changing my views as I type. Just taking a little break here. Back later with my thrilling confusion. I mean, conclusion.
Much later.
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Old 3rd January 2023, 04:09 AM
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I just re-read the game, playing attention to Bashorian mentions and Bashorian's posts.

The first thing that stood out was that I caught BC in a (weak?) scum tell Day 1, then forgot about it. Renata pointed this out:
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This [Swammi] is very unlikely to be a town player. Aside from the push on Pizza and everything that came of that, there is no interest shown in solving the game. There's no process on anything. Pizza was 100% scum, then "did he actually claim vig?" and 100% unvote, no interest in anybody else. Original scum read on Bashorian Clement entirely forgotten, doesn't follow through on APSB wagon, doesn't find an alternative vote. Shows ten times as much interest today in the mechanics questions than in anything to do with solving.
I agree with her; and the post makes me lean strongly Town on her. (She's right about my play being atrocious if Town ... but of course she's wrong about me actually being scum!)

Something else that stood out very clearly is that Burma Shave is definitely not an Elf. (I still think he's a top candidate for Mariah Godfather.)

Raventhief and APSB are the players who voted BC for the successful Wrap. They are unlikely to be Elves.

Finally, here are Miko's (most recent?) leans
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Elves
Bashorian
One of <Lightfoot/TexCat>
One of <Raven/Jackie>

Mariah
One of <Burma/Raven>
TexCat voted for the Mariah scum (Burma Shave) but has refused to take a stand on the Elves.

I move that we Double Wrap TexCat (Elf) and Burma Shave (Mariah).
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Old 3rd January 2023, 05:44 AM
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The plan yesterDay was to let Kaiveran — semi-confirmed Townie — pick the two Wrappees. This would have given us Double Wrap except for apathy about the Game. (But study of the vote record might tell us who was trying to save Raventhief from the Wrap.)

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I am puzzled by this and also surprised that nobody replied to you.

why do you want to "stand aside"? and I feel like more people than that had suspicions raised against them.

is A Poor Shepard Boy voting for me because I'm scummy? Since I'm not, he must have some other reason.

I guess this makes him suspicious.
ToDay we do NOT have a semi-confirmed Townie. I named five players who are not widely thought to be Scum to a "Town Council"; I'll bet at least three of them are Townies. If three on the Council can agree on Wrappees, and other Townies then play along we can get a Double- or Triple-Wrap.

I "stand aside" because (a) I have no strong opinions about who is scum, (b) Some may find me scummy. I intend to vote as a majority on the "Town Council" instructs.

I am also disappointed that none of the Council has designated two Wrappees. (TexCat named one.) I got so impatient I voted already, but to demonstrate my intent to comply with Town Council decision, I shall


I’m sorry I haven’t been able to play on your timeline Swammi. Ya know getting Covid and having Christmas moved really screwed with my timeline. I also am still not 100% 2 weeks later.

TexCat is my #1 suspect right now. She’s not even playing. Where’s the queen of the scum that she is? All of her posts have been drive by votes with almost no substance. I’m very baffled by her play and I need it resolved before moving on.

Burma isn’t on the same team as BC. I proved that EOD with my slick moves to get him off Raven. Burma you are mischaracterizing me. I took my vote off of BC and my ploy was to get him off of Raven. It worked, and we bagged him.
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Old 3rd January 2023, 05:46 AM
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I can go Shep or LightFoot.

LightFoot for the same reasonings as Tex. Just distant and not present in the game at all.

Sheps case has been beaten by a dead horse.
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Old 3rd January 2023, 08:56 AM
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The plan yesterDay was to let Kaiveran — semi-confirmed Townie — pick the two Wrappees. This would have given us Double Wrap except for apathy about the Game. (But study of the vote record might tell us who was trying to save Raventhief from the Wrap.)



ToDay we do NOT have a semi-confirmed Townie. I named five players who are not widely thought to be Scum to a "Town Council"; I'll bet at least three of them are Townies. If three on the Council can agree on Wrappees, and other Townies then play along we can get a Double- or Triple-Wrap.

I "stand aside" because (a) I have no strong opinions about who is scum, (b) Some may find me scummy. I intend to vote as a majority on the "Town Council" instructs.

I am also disappointed that none of the Council has designated two Wrappees. (TexCat named one.) I got so impatient I voted already, but to demonstrate my intent to comply with Town Council decision, I shall


I’m sorry I haven’t been able to play on your timeline Swammi. Ya know getting Covid and having Christmas moved really screwed with my timeline. I also am still not 100% 2 weeks later.
I'm really sorry to hear this.

I'm afraid my tone came across different from my intent. Had it been personal contact, you would have responded to my joviality.

My own GUESS is that we're seeing Town LightFoot, disheartened by the whole game. Wouldn't Scum LF show more activity? But this is just a GUESS. Surely you, Tex, LF and Raven have played together enough to guess each others' alignments?
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Old 3rd January 2023, 12:07 PM
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[unSPOILER]D1—6 posts, voted for Askthepizza guy, #443
1. First post
2. “The doc can protect the cop every night.” This is a D1 nothingburger.
3. Pizza post look like scum spamming, Pleo’s vig post inconsistent with belief that town players shouldn’t fear death. Voted for Askthepizzaguy.
4. Answers guiry’s question about why vote pizza (the answer was: spamming)
5. Pizza scum, if he were town he’d be reading more
6. Skimmed past toxicity, apologizes if she hurt anyone’s feelings, doesn’t see pizza reacting this way as town.

Okay, nothing damning here but also nothing the least bit controversial or moving the game forward.

D2
8 posts
Voted for Halfrize (#183) But also expressed willingness to vote for Renata, no reasons given
1. Didn’t remember gnarly was playing (quite reasonable, no posts at all); questions why there was only one night death and it wasn’t guiri
2. Docs can’t self-protect (in response to maybe guiri self-protected from Swammi)
3. Talks about others’ town reads, asks why Renata focused on her
4. Response to Renata who had voted her
5. Response to Renata’s response about the above
6. Kai could hold onto town result for awhile
7. BC quoted and commented on her post about the town result “Unless the vig decides they shouldn’t be here” The coment was ???
8. Votes Halfrize (#183), also willing to vote Renata

Suspicion on Renata, bit of shade on Swammi

D3 posts
4 posts
Voted Renata (#47), unvoted after Kai’s innocent result, switched to raventhief (#186)
1. Votes Renata, “tired of being tunneled by you”
2. Unvotes Renata, still thinks she might be GF
3. Votes raventhief “in hopes of a double wrap”
4. Asks ab out 4-4 tie will both players go down

No new suspicious registered, voted raven for the double-wrap without ever saying anything about raven
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So TLDR: not very many posts, not a lot of suspicion, and mostly on someone who voted for her, did not mention many other players, or interact much.

Someone did say that quiet TexCat tended to be scum TexCat. This has been a very quiet TexCat.
I don't like your characterization of my D1 posts at all. I think voting Pizza was somewhat controversial. Quite a few unvoted him. But I stuck with him and certainly his wrap moved the game forward.

I'm finding that people who use the "a quiet TexCat is a scum TexCat" card are almost always scum, thinking that they can get me mis-wrapped that way. That's one reason I questioned Renata and thought they were scum, they went after a quiet me: but not after a quiet Lightfoot or Raventhief.

This post by Burma Shave may be the scummiest post of the game, certainly the scummiest after Day one.
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Old 3rd January 2023, 12:11 PM
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I just re-read the game, playing attention to Bashorian mentions and Bashorian's posts.

The first thing that stood out was that I caught BC in a (weak?) scum tell Day 1, then forgot about it. Renata pointed this out:
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This [Swammi] is very unlikely to be a town player. Aside from the push on Pizza and everything that came of that, there is no interest shown in solving the game. There's no process on anything. Pizza was 100% scum, then "did he actually claim vig?" and 100% unvote, no interest in anybody else. Original scum read on Bashorian Clement entirely forgotten, doesn't follow through on APSB wagon, doesn't find an alternative vote. Shows ten times as much interest today in the mechanics questions than in anything to do with solving.
I agree with her; and the post makes me lean strongly Town on her. (She's right about my play being atrocious if Town ... but of course she's wrong about me actually being scum!)

Something else that stood out very clearly is that Burma Shave is definitely not an Elf. (I still think he's a top candidate for Mariah Godfather.)

Raventhief and APSB are the players who voted BC for the successful Wrap. They are unlikely to be Elves.

Finally, here are Miko's (most recent?) leans
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Elves
Bashorian
One of <Lightfoot/TexCat>
One of <Raven/Jackie>

Mariah
One of <Burma/Raven>
TexCat voted for the Mariah scum (Burma Shave) but has refused to take a stand on the Elves.

I move that we Double Wrap TexCat (Elf) and Burma Shave (Mariah).
I did vote Raven yesterday. I would be happy for her to be the second lynch today, but I'm bet-the-ranch sure that Burma is the mariah godfather and only bet-you-a-nickel sure about Raven.
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I’m sorry I haven’t been able to play on your timeline Swammi. Ya know getting Covid and having Christmas moved really screwed with my timeline. I also am still not 100% 2 weeks later.
I'm really sorry to hear this.

I'm afraid my tone came across different from my intent. Had it been personal contact, you would have responded to my joviality.

My own GUESS is that we're seeing Town LightFoot, disheartened by the whole game. Wouldn't Scum LF show more activity? But this is just a GUESS. Surely you, Tex, LF and Raven have played together enough to guess each others' alignments?
Lol my comment was a little tongue in cheek as well. I’m disgruntled at life at the moment. December was a shit show, and I got scolded today at work for not speaking up and telling others I disagreed with the direction of an event, When I did and got railroaded and silenced… oh it was when I was sick too. FML.

So yeah no mal intent with my comme t, just speaking up for myself.
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I just re-read the game, playing attention to Bashorian mentions and Bashorian's posts.

The first thing that stood out was that I caught BC in a (weak?) scum tell Day 1, then forgot about it. Renata pointed this out:

I agree with her; and the post makes me lean strongly Town on her. (She's right about my play being atrocious if Town ... but of course she's wrong about me actually being scum!)

Something else that stood out very clearly is that Burma Shave is definitely not an Elf. (I still think he's a top candidate for Mariah Godfather.)

Raventhief and APSB are the players who voted BC for the successful Wrap. They are unlikely to be Elves.

Finally, here are Miko's (most recent?) leans


TexCat voted for the Mariah scum (Burma Shave) but has refused to take a stand on the Elves.

I move that we Double Wrap TexCat (Elf) and Burma Shave (Mariah).
I did vote Raven yesterday. I would be happy for her to be the second lynch today, but I'm bet-the-ranch sure that Burma is the mariah godfather and only bet-you-a-nickel sure about Raven.

So Tex, why don’t you enlighten us?

Does the cat have your tongue this game?

What do you think about the remaining deck of cards we have here.

I’d love to hear why you think Burma is the Mariah GF? Because I don’t have that impression at all, and I don’t get your POV. Can you enlighten me?
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Jackielikesvariety (1): A Poor Shepherd Boy (16)
Burma Shave (1): Swammerdami (10)[21], TexCat (15)
Burma Shave will be wrapped Thursday if nothing changes.
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I just re-read the game, playing attention to Bashorian mentions and Bashorian's posts.

The first thing that stood out was that I caught BC in a (weak?) scum tell Day 1, then forgot about it. Renata pointed this out:
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Originally Posted by Renata
This [Swammi] is very unlikely to be a town player. Aside from the push on Pizza and everything that came of that, there is no interest shown in solving the game. There's no process on anything. Pizza was 100% scum, then "did he actually claim vig?" and 100% unvote, no interest in anybody else. Original scum read on Bashorian Clement entirely forgotten, doesn't follow through on APSB wagon, doesn't find an alternative vote. Shows ten times as much interest today in the mechanics questions than in anything to do with solving.
I agree with her; and the post makes me lean strongly Town on her. (She's right about my play being atrocious if Town ... but of course she's wrong about me actually being scum!)

Something else that stood out very clearly is that Burma Shave is definitely not an Elf. (I still think he's a top candidate for Mariah Godfather.)

Raventhief and APSB are the players who voted BC for the successful Wrap. They are unlikely to be Elves.

Finally, here are Miko's (most recent?) leans
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Elves
Bashorian
One of <Lightfoot/TexCat>
One of <Raven/Jackie>

Mariah
One of <Burma/Raven>
TexCat voted for the Mariah scum (Burma Shave) but has refused to take a stand on the Elves.

I move that we Double Wrap TexCat (Elf) and Burma Shave (Mariah).
I find Miko's leans to be interesting, since the vig shot landed on none of them/us. I'll have to go back and see where else they indicated possibly final (?) leans.
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I just re-read the game, playing attention to Bashorian mentions and Bashorian's posts.

The first thing that stood out was that I caught BC in a (weak?) scum tell Day 1, then forgot about it. Renata pointed this out:

I agree with her; and the post makes me lean strongly Town on her. (She's right about my play being atrocious if Town ... but of course she's wrong about me actually being scum!)

Something else that stood out very clearly is that Burma Shave is definitely not an Elf. (I still think he's a top candidate for Mariah Godfather.)

Raventhief and APSB are the players who voted BC for the successful Wrap. They are unlikely to be Elves.

Finally, here are Miko's (most recent?) leans


TexCat voted for the Mariah scum (Burma Shave) but has refused to take a stand on the Elves.

I move that we Double Wrap TexCat (Elf) and Burma Shave (Mariah).
I did vote Raven yesterday. I would be happy for her to be the second lynch today, but I'm bet-the-ranch sure that Burma is the mariah godfather and only bet-you-a-nickel sure about Raven.
Woohoo, imma win a nickel from TexCat!
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I have not read anything since my ast post
I see that I am not dead that's good.

I may not be caught up unti tomorrow thank some of you for your patience.

@me if something needs my attention before I get caught up
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I forgot Kai's results: Pleo and Renata are town.
at least one of those have to be Town [ there is only one godfather left ]

Could be helpful? or did I miss something
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Askthepizzaguy (5): Halfrize (24)[168], guiri (74)[543], Red Skeezix (124), Mendie Taoma (127), Swammerdami (140)[723], Pleonast (298)[434], TexCat (443), Askthepizzaguy (518)[688],Pleonast (678), guiri (700)

Texcat (3): Dizzymrslizzy (563), Kaiveran(636),Askthepizzaguy (689)

A Poor Shepherd Boy (3): JackieLikesVariety (426), Pleonast (434)[678], Renata (578), guiri (630)[672], Burma Shave (634)

Pleonast (2): Renata (146)[274], A Poor Shepherd Boy (561), mikomiya (654)

Red Skeezix (1): Bashorian Clement (30), A Poor Shepherd Boy (108)[122]

Mahaloth (0): Mahaloth (15)[15]

Kaiveran (0): Mendie Taoma (4)[33], Halfrize (590)[617]

. guiri (0): Bashorian Clement (7)[30], Askthepizzaguy (97)[517], A Poor Shepherd Boy (122)[554], Renata (274)[548], Halfrize (318)[355]
Jackielikesvariety (0): Burma Shave (81)[246]
Apoorshepherdboy (0): Renata (548)[578]
Dizzymrslizzy (0): Halfrize (224)[315], mikomiya (341)[654], Halfrize (355)[537]
Askthepizzaguyforpineapple (0): guiri (672)[700]
D2
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Halfrize (6): Pleonast (49)[92], guiri (58), Pleonast (92), Burma Shave (104)[171], TexCat (183), Red Skeezix (216), raventhief (234), Burma Shave (242)

Red Skeezix (3): Bashorian Clement(168), Swammerdami (218), A Poor Shepherd Boy (220)

Renata (2): Mendie Taoma (102), JackieLikesVariety (158)

Burma Shave (2): Swammerdami (40)[128], Halfrize (76), Swammerdami (128)[218], LightFoot (138)

Swammerdami (1): Renata (93), Red Skeezix (95)[190]
Miko (1): Dizzymrslizzy (182)
A Poor Shepherd Boy (1): mikomiya (236)

Texcat (0): Renata (56)[93]
mikomiya (0): Red Skeezix (69)[95], [color=red]Red Skeezix [/color(190)[216]
Pleonast (0): mikomiya (79)[195], Bashorian Clement(83)[168], Dizzymrslizzy (144)[182], A Poor Shepherd Boy (162)[178]
Jackielikesvariety (0): Burma Shave (173)[242]
Red Skeezix (0): mikomiya (195)[236]
D
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Bashorian Clement (4): Burma Shave (43), mikomiya (140), raventhief (170), A Poor Shepherd Boy (180)

Raventhief (3): Swammerdami (49)[104], Swammerdami (104), Renata (168), TexCat (186), Bashorian Clement (207)[214]

Burma Shave (3): Bashorian Clement(33)[40], Kaiveran(636) (107)[219], LightFoot (110), raventhief (155)[170], Dizzymrslizzy (208), Bashorian Clement(214)

Mendie Taoma (1): JackieLikesVariety (62)
Jackielikesvariety (1): Mendie Taoma (61)

Texcat (0): Dizzymrslizzy (165)[208]
Renata (0): LightFoot (38)[109], TexCat (47)[106]
Swammerdam (0): Dizzymrslizzy (59)[165]
Dizzymrslizzy (0): Swammerdami (9)[49]
Miko (0): Dizzymrslizzy (16)[59]
A Poor Shepherd Boy (0): Bashorian Clement(40)[207], Renata (70)[168], mikomiya (71)[140], Swammerdami (104)[104]
is this accurate?
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Ugh I lost my post!!!

But LightFoot, you’ve convinced me even more that Tex is an Elf…

Day 1: Skirmish with Pizza. We know Tex isn’t a Mariah because of the interaction with Pizza. I think Pizzas suspicion here was real. Pair it with I find it very hard to believe there were no elves on Pizza. Tex is all that’s left….


Day 2: Tex swoops in with a half assed vote on Halfrize. There was no context as to why. And why Half was a better candidate than Burma. But she just naked voted

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I definitely prefer this to a BurmaShave wrap. I could also vote for Renata.

Day 3: Another naked vote… this time on Raven. And Tex wasn’t concerned at all who they were killing just that 2 players were eliminated. She knew no one on her team was going down, so it was easy and safe for 2 others to go overboard!

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in an attempt to get a double wrap today
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For the 3rd day in a row.
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Ugh I lost my post!!!

But LightFoot, you’ve convinced me even more that Tex is an Elf…

~
I am trying to look where players didn't vote I don't have much time to be productive- but there might be something there

Your reasoning for the conclusion?
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Ugh I lost my post!!!

But LightFoot, you’ve convinced me even more that Tex is an Elf…

~
I am trying to look where players didn't vote I don't have much time to be productive- but there might be something there

Your reasoning for the conclusion?

I quoted several places
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Old 3rd January 2023, 07:24 PM
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There may be nothing here-but


Never voted a [known] Mariah
8. Dizzymrslizzy
10. raventhief
14. Renata
15. JackieLikesVariety
18. Burma Shave


Never voted a [known] elf

11. Texcat
19. Swammerdami
8. Dizzymrslizzy
14. Renata
15. JackieLikesVariety

voted a [known] Mariah

5. A Poor Shepherd Boy
11. Texcat
19. Swammerdami

voted a [known] elf

5. A Poor Shepherd Boy
10. raventhief
18. Burma Shave

I am trying to approach this sideways because straight on is not working so wel for me
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Incorrect….

I helped wrap BC yesterday, by pulling BC of Townie Raven.
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Incorrect….

I helped wrap BC yesterday, by pulling BC of Townie Raven.
Is the vote count wrong? I don't see your vote there
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There may be nothing here-but


Never voted a [known] Mariah
8. Dizzymrslizzy
10. raventhief
14. Renata
15. JackieLikesVariety
18. Burma Shave


Never voted a [known] elf

11. Texcat
19. Swammerdami
8. Dizzymrslizzy
14. Renata
15. JackieLikesVariety

voted a [known] Mariah

5. A Poor Shepherd Boy
11. Texcat
19. Swammerdami

voted a [known] elf

5. A Poor Shepherd Boy
10. raventhief
18. Burma Shave

I am trying to approach this sideways because straight on is not working so wel for me
Some people include themselves in lean lists and some don't. But in this list I think you should include yourself in both the Never Voted For A... categories.
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Quite a vote count.

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Texcat (1): Dizzymrslizzy (41)
Jackielikesvariety (1): A Poor Shepherd Boy (16)
Burma Shave (1): Swammerdami (10)[21], TexCat (15)
Not voting: JackieLikesVarieity, LightFoot, raventhief, Renata, TexCat

Excluded myself because:


Would also vote for LightFoot and some others.
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Texcat (2): Dizzymrslizzy (41), Burma Shave (48)
Jackielikesvariety (1): A Poor Shepherd Boy (16)
Burma Shave (1): Swammerdami (10)[21], TexCat (15)
Texcat is set to be wrapped Thursday if nothing changes.
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Quite a vote count.

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Texcat (1): Dizzymrslizzy (41)
Jackielikesvariety (1): A Poor Shepherd Boy (16)
Burma Shave (1): Swammerdami (10)[21], TexCat (15)
Not voting: JackieLikesVarieity, LightFoot, raventhief, Renata, TexCat
Corrected! How did I miss that one? Wishful thinking?
 


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