Cheap Beer Mafia -- Day One

[Plumpudding]

maha be maha and pleo be pløøø?

[Plumpudding]

Okay, I've think'ing a bit: What if town and scum just make up their differences and then ascend?! To what, you ask? GODHOOD! IMAGAAAAD! #mafiasolved

[Plumpudding]

I've soft-claimed btw-

[Plumpudding]

I've been off for a while see you tomo-

[Sea Serpent]

Originally Posted by Plumpudding

and who is sea serpent ffs

Sea Serpent is Shishapangma.

[Plumpudding]

Who is Shishapangma except for sea serpent?

[Plumpudding]

Bio?

[Plumpudding]

Eh doesn't matter. I know you now, Sea Serpent, by your coy and wily way of answering questions. I need more beer!

[LightFoot]

Well this started faster than I anticipated.
I just spent a week having a pity party and ignoring the world- after [ IRL crap I will let you know Tonight]


Not much to go from so far with joking and drinking.

Naked votes and such.

We have until Friday to sort ourselves out for a true candidate.
I am of a mind that some of the odd exchanges are just banter. It bears attention to which are discarded and which were 'serious'

[Sea Serpent]

I would bet this is pretty good.

[LightFoot]

I don’t expect to have a long life here. I do hope it isn’t a lynch though

1:2 and 1:18 with super majority in play multi-vote would be a grand circus- don’tcha think?

Pleo and Plum are pingy at this time.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Well this started faster than I anticipated.
I just spent a week having a pity party and ignoring the world- after [ IRL crap I will let you know Tonight]


Not much to go from so far with joking and drinking.

Naked votes and such.

We have until Friday to sort ourselves out for a true candidate.
I am of a mind that some of the odd exchanges are just banter. It bears attention to which are discarded and which were 'serious'

Up to discuss some thoughts?

[Vanta Black]

Namesake beer is this Although it does not look particularly cheap. Who would have thought?

[guiri]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I don’t expect to have a long life here. I do hope it isn’t a lynch though

1:2 and 1:18 with super majority in play multi-vote would be a grand circus- don’tcha think?

Pleo and Plum are pingy at this time.

I disagree about Plum.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I don’t expect to have a long life here. I do hope it isn’t a lynch though

1:2 and 1:18 with super majority in play multi-vote would be a grand circus- don’tcha think?

Pleo and Plum are pingy at this time.

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Namesake beer is this Although it does not look particularly cheap. Who would have thought?

Serious vote.

[Plumpudding]

[Plumpudding]

Anyone have vote count robot at hand?

[guiri]

67 posts parsed, 10 voting actions found.

Cut and paste this into your thread to create a nice pretty vote count:

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Kaiveran (1): Mahaloth (22)
Mahaloth (1): Plumpudding (15)[30], Kaiveran (17)
Vanta Black (1): guiri (65)
Lightfoot (0): Plumpudding (38)[66]
Mendie Taoma (0): Plumpudding (32)[37]

If you want, you can paste this as well:

Voting History:
post #15: Plumpudding voted Mahaloth
post #17: Kaiveran voted Mahaloth
post #22: Mahaloth voted Kaiveran
post #30: Plumpudding unvoted Mahaloth
post #32: Plumpudding voted Mendie Taoma
post #37: Plumpudding unvoted Mendie Taoma
post #38: Plumpudding voted Lightfoot
post #44: Plumpudding illegally voted Sea Serpent
post #65: guiri voted Vanta Black
post #66: Plumpudding unvoted All

And here's a direct link to this page:

compute vote count for Day X

[Plumpudding]

I have a ping on LighFoot. Not sure why, but then again that's pretty common. Something about the "looks like I won't survive long" thing.

Kaiveran kinda pings me because of lazy vote on Maha, piggybacking mine, plus some cuddling and stuff.

Sea Serpent pings me.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by guiri

I’m supportive of stating my second vote preference - it’s pretty common to state who else you’d be willing to execute, but unsure about the last part of Pleo’s suggestion… is it that we should change our vote to pile onto the generally most suspected player, even if they’re not our first preference?

Never vote for anyone you don't think is Scum. But we know there are two Scum. It's better to be voting for your second choice of Scum then to let someone you don't think is Scum get executed because you were voting for your first choice.

(Multi-voting makes this process easier to do.)

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

1:2 and 1:18 with super majority in play multi-vote would be a grand circus- don’tcha think?

I can't parse this at all.

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Pleo and Plum are pingy at this time.

I'll take that as a complement.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Plumpudding

Yeah mendie I'm kinda gvet drunk a d J and then I start. Analalyzinfng

Much better now?

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

I'm looking through the chances of multiple scenarios. Too much math to post here, but our overall chances of winning is roughly one-third, assuming optimal play by all players. Mostly likely play-out of the game is we execute two Townies in the first two Days, investigator reveals a scum on Day Three, and we have 2 Town vs 1 Scum on Day Four. That's basically a 50-50 shot at that point.

We're basically in end-game right now, but without the accumulation of information from earlier parts in the game. Small games are inherently difficult to balance.

Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).

1. "" Too much math to post here "" == Pleonast is asking for trust and faith, and to be followed blindly. There would be more motivation here, if he were Scum. I think Town would be more free with "showing their work". Or, mention it in passing.

2. As I mentioned before "Assuming optimal play" is IMHO next door to pingy. We are not going to get optimal play. This is like all of those infomercials that have like 4 or 5 of the cookery device ready to go, with none of the prep, and none of the clean up, the device looks amazing, until you take two seconds andr realize, you are only going to buy one device of the 5, and even then, the prep, set up, and clean up after, is going to take even longer, than the rapid fire assembly line style process of the 5 devices on the counter. Sizzle, no steak.

3. A hypothetical situation is given, with us losing two town, and cop revealing themselves [[Perhaps too early? Or when Scum can most use the info?]] and then a proclamation that we will then, no, wait, are now, no wait, we already lost the game. Not unlike "The Day After Tomorrow" where every 20 minutes The End Of The World was moved up half of the time stated, until the title time frame was given. This sets a clock that I don't like, don't believe in, and think only Scum profit from.

3.1 Dammit, I just lost "The Game". And if you play that game, you did too.

4. a middling block of text in the middle. Part of me wants to say it was over analyzed and put in, just to smooth over the rest of the post. On one hand, seems meaningful, and on the other, meaningless.

5. Last paragraph seems like the biggest fishing expedition ever. Tell me who you suspect, and if I, or my partner are on deck, that would give us more than ample time to change what we are doing.

5.1 Which, come to think of it, it almost seems like there is a slip here. That or, Crazy like a fox / double bluff. Yes, it would suck if Scum did do that. ... and then we proceed to watch it happen it exactly that way.

6. More "The Day After Tomorrow" fast forwarding. I could have sworn, when we started this post we were at day 1, and now, after reading this last line, it's like we are in night 4.

6.1 It just feels like undue pressure to something, quick. Ready. Fire. Aim. "" Do what I am telling you to do, if you don't already have a plan, and don't think twice about it. You can trust me. ""

[Mendie Taoma]

NETA

Sorry Pleonast, was unaware you had stated pronouns.

You would think I would be on top of that.

Sorry.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

~

Serious vote.

Care to share what you see?

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Plumpudding

I have a ping on LighFoot. Not sure why, but then again that's pretty common. Something about the "looks like I won't survive long" thing.

~.

My track record for survival has not been great of late. Didn't make it long last game.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

I can't parse this at all.

Day and post # or what I said?

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Pleo and Plum are pingy at this time.

I'll take that as a complement. [/QUOTE] As you wish

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

6.1 It just feels like undue pressure to something, quick. Ready. Fire. Aim. "" Do what I am telling you to do, if you don't already have a plan, and don't think twice about it. You can trust me. ""

We get to make exactly two mistakes and then we lose on the next one. That is due pressure.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

NETA

Sorry Pleonast, was unaware you had stated pronouns.

You would think I would be on top of that.

Sorry.

I am terrible at remembering others' pronouns, so no worries. My preference is also so slight as to be nearly non-existent. I've recently made it explicit in solidarity with those who do have strong preferences.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Day and post # or what I said?

Ah, I couldn't parse the numbers as Day and Post. I thought you were computing some weird odds.

[LightFoot]

borked a tag above

[LightFoot]

Mendie
You touched on some of the things that gave me my ‘ping’
1- I don’t recall if Pleo is one of the ‘numbers’ people, but yes that caught my thoughts.

2- and 3-Seemed off as well.

5- I didn’t read it quite that way the first time, but it needs re-read.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

We get to make exactly two mistakes and then we lose on the next one. That is due pressure.

What you said earlier

Originally Posted by Pleonast

With 7 town vs 2 scum, after two bad executions, it’ll be 3 vs 2. So the we can have two bad executions, and still win. We have to find 2 scum out of 9 players.

If we had 8 town vs 2 scum, after two bad executions, it’ll be 4 vs 2. One more and we lose. But we have to find 2 scum out of 10 players. So, despite having one more town, it’s harder to win.

The math is actually more complicated than that, but it captures the gist of it.

as I count it we are 9 total.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Care to share what you see?

The grouping of Maha with Sea Serpent for the last game, then multiple people questioned them, they came back with fluff and no response. Feels like either distancing or smudge on Sea Serpent, so keeping an eye on them.

[Sea Serpent]

Originally Posted by Plumpudding

Sea Serpent pings me.

I did no such thing.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

I did no such thing.

You made me chuckle right there

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

That's fair, but what did Sea Serpent do?

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

Hey I didn't do anything last game but try and get everyone to win. Sorry it didn't work out but the scaly one here is not deserving of malice.

Sea Serpent knows what he did!

Hint: There was one player whose extinction would end the game. A player trying to go for everyone winig

[Vanta Black]

Oops. Cat.

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

That's fair, but what did Sea Serpent do?

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

Hey I didn't do anything last game but try and get everyone to win. Sorry it didn't work out but the scaly one here is not deserving of malice.

Sea Serpent knows what he did!

Hint: There was one player whose extinction would end the game. A player trying to go for everyone winning would have applied first aid to that player. That is all. And really it was just a D1 thing. I have wiped my brain and do not hold grudges, except deep inside.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

No, of course not, I highly encourage scum to claim by drinking the wrong beer.

[joke-vote]guiri[/joke-vote]

Serious: A little pinged by this vote-haha-not-really thing. WHY? Is joke-voting some kind of requirement?

Unserious: Wait we have to DRINK it? I was gonna use it to set my hair. (This once was a thing. Really. Or maybe just a way for underage chicks to justify having beer in the house.)

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Oops. Cat.

Sea Serpent knows what he did!

Hint: There was one player whose extinction would end the game. A player trying to go for everyone winning would have applied first aid to that player. That is all. And really it was just a D1 thing. I have wiped my brain and do not hold grudges, except deep inside.

Had Kai been protected that Night, and Maha shot elsewhere, that person’s opponent would have lost. Had Kai been protected and Maha shot Kai, Kai would have died the following Night. The plan was fine, Sea Serpent did the right thing, Maha just went awol.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by guiri

The question about my avatar was a joke… it’s still Guinness with a seasonal touch. The multi-vote was serious, since it wasn’t mentioned in the rules.

I get the grudge vote on Mahaloth, fully understand the sentiment, but it’s a mafioso’s nature to double-cross and backstab.

I don’t get why Vanta included Sea Serpent either.

I’m supportive of stating my second vote preference - it’s pretty common to state who else you’d be willing to execute, but unsure about the last part of Pleo’s suggestion… is it that we should change our vote to pile onto the generally most suspected player, even if they’re not our first preference?

Have explained why Sea Serpent, but only recently. And it is frivolous, every game is a new game.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

I am terrible at remembering others' pronouns, so no worries. My preference is also so slight as to be nearly non-existent. I've recently made it explicit in solidarity with those who do have strong preferences.

OOG

There is a reason I claim Demigirl, over Transfemme.

Finally. I got to a point where it was "Would I be ok, being a girl? ... Would I honestly be ok, if I wasn't?"

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Oops. Cat.

Sea Serpent knows what he did!

Hint: There was one player whose extinction would end the game. A player trying to go for everyone winning would have applied first aid to that player. That is all. And really it was just a D1 thing. I have wiped my brain and do not hold grudges, except deep inside.

So why beat a horse that is NOT this game. You did bring it up more than once.


Can we address THIS game. Thank you

[LightFoot]

Damn guiri- you too?

[guiri]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Damn guiri- you too?

Me what? I was pinged by Vanta’s apparent avoidance of the questioning. I don’t hold grudges, and don’t care about the last game, their behavior pinged me in this game and I found a possible scummy motivation. The explanation seems okay though.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

Me what? I was pinged by Vanta’s apparent avoidance of the questioning. I don’t hold grudges, and don’t care about the last game, their behavior pinged me in this game and I found a possible scummy motivation. The explanation seems okay though.

re-explaining a scenario from a previous game In game.- you were specific
I may have forgotten the

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

So why beat a horse that is NOT this game. You did bring it up more than once.


Can we address THIS game. Thank you

Yes ma'am.

This game: My #1 suspect is Pleonast. #2 is Mahaloth, for vanilla claim, and also a bit because of the Pleo non-vote joke vote.

The theme may be cheap beer but it's never too early to WIFOM.

[Plumpudding]

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

I did no such thing.

I made myself feel pinged by Sea serpent.

[Plumpudding]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Much better now?

No, went out again. Payday today, woo!

[Plumpudding]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

NETA

Sorry Pleonast, was unaware you had stated pronouns.

You would think I would be on top of that.

Sorry.

Salads appear on all ground I walk. I think I need an update on preferred pronouns, if people have them, since I've been away for a while. Otherwise I'll just call people 'they' I guess-