Yeetmas 3 - Day 2 - And the three wisemen are no more?

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by guiri

Looking back at D1 for possible Mariahs.

Likely:
SilverJan: snuggled quite a bit - #29, Archangel gave a town read on Silver in #135 for “tone”, Silver returned the favor in #139 since AA requested a sub. She gets quite defensive of AA as the Day progresses, #187 she defends her stance that scum AA would not request a sub, she comments on the votes AA already has in #190-192, and voted Swammi partially for his vote on AA. This post saves her a little though:

A Poor Shepherd Boy: did not see scummy behaviour in AA and voted Christmas Sock following her lead #214, a bold move for a fellow scum

Meeko FOS’d but did not vote Archangel - #36. During the Night he said this: Please explain more your decision not to comment or act?

Unlikely:
Pleo voted Archangel for her first post - #44
Vanta expressed disbelief in her first post sentiment #50, then voted her, for this and as she already had a vote #125
Bill reacted to SilverJan’s defence of AA, disagreeing that scum wouldn’t do that, and voting AA in #193.

Elsewhere,

So was your vote in #12 serious?

Quoting myself in case the question to Pleo is missed.

Guiri… no my vote in #12 was obviously a joke vote.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

Guiri… no my vote in #12 was obviously a joke vote.

OK, but you were aware of his claim and kept the vote, I guess you were planning to unvote and vote someone else later but didn’t make it back? Who would you have voted?

Originally Posted by Meeko

"" It is interesting, because while I did note that AA was leading for the vote, and well, I wasn't sure how to comment, or ""Act"" on it in the game. I'm never ever going to shake my paranoia, am I? ""

Do you all think about the game so much, to the point that, in your brain, at least, you are like, taking for granted that you actually already posted something to the game?

Like, you compose a text on the phone to someone, and then, never ever actually hit send, but assume that it is sent, regardless, and then act on, and after that?

Yes, this happens to me too, but it’s not what you said, you said you weren’t sure how to comment or act, not that you thought you’d already commented but realized you didn’t. I only have your words to go on. Did you also think you’d placed a vote on someone?

Originally Posted by Meeko

I am tempted to look at this math, and conclude that, for the third "wrap" .... additional power [That is to say, a one shot, or otherwise a limited "extra" power was used] was used. And therefore, decided on, deliberated on.

What is the motivation to use up Extra on Night 1?


I would like to think, that, despite the body count, having .... incensed scum [[Capitlized, or Not]] being moved to do extra, has to ultimately bode well for us. .... and that it's not some stupid townie.

Maybe you need some rest.

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Fully open setup, absolutely no secret roles or “Mahaloth potatoes” flying around.

This in an open setup, we have access to all the role PMs, there’s no secret extra power, there are two scum teams and a vig, presumably all three made a kill last Night. Besides that, what do you mean by “ultimately bode well for us”?

Originally Posted by Silverjan

I really did think AA was Town, just goes to show that I can't read people at all. I am curious as to how I could have been snuggling AA though, I thought that was something that scum did to Town. I was also wrong about Swammi. If Prof is lying to us then I will have to give up this game forever. I don't think he is lying because there wasn't a counter claim and why would scum take such a risk anyway, that wouldn't make sense.

Maybe snuggling was the wrong word - friendly? Protective?, there’s nothing inherently scummy with being wrong, I’m looking at the entire set of interactions.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by guiri

OK, but you were aware of his claim and kept the vote, I guess you were planning to unvote and vote someone else later but didn’t make it back? Who would you have voted?
Yes, this happens to me too, but it’s not what you said, you said you weren’t sure how to comment or act, not that you thought you’d already commented but realized you didn’t. I only have your words to go on. Did you also think you’d placed a vote on someone?
Maybe you need some rest. This in an open setup, we have access to all the role PMs, there’s no secret extra power, there are two scum teams and a vig, presumably all three made a kill last Night. Besides that, what do you mean by “ultimately bode well for us”?

Maybe snuggling was the wrong word - friendly? Protective?, there’s nothing inherently scummy with being wrong, I’m looking at the entire set of interactions.

No I was not aware of his claim until
Night started.

I placed the joke vote, and then proceeded to work 60 hours that week, on top of prepping for a house full of people on Christmas Day.

I logged in one more time, and read a few posts, posted the one post about Pleo because it stood out to me as something I felt comfortable posting about, and I was full planning to come back and catch up. When I logged back in, Day was over. I didn’t realize when EOD was. My fault. 100%

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

No I was not aware of his claim until Night started.

I placed the joke vote, and then proceeded to work 60 hours that week, on top of prepping for a house full of people on Christmas Day.

I logged in one more time, and read a few posts, posted the one post about Pleo because it stood out to me as something I felt comfortable posting about, and I was full planning to come back and catch up. When I logged back in, Day was over. I didn’t realize when EOD was. My fault. 100%

Fair enough, it matches your N1 post.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by guiri

Maybe you need some rest.

This in an open setup, we have access to all the role PMs, there’s no secret extra power, there are two scum teams and a vig, presumably all three made a kill last Night. Besides that, what do you mean by “ultimately bode well for us”?

The motivation then ... Is it better to say frame of reference? .... The vantage I had with this, was one of assuming that non-town teams had a limited number of extra kills. That having used one of them [To total 3 NKs across two non-town teams] they felt pushed to do so.... because we were on to them.

Yes, 3 dead town in one day cycle is not good. BUT if we can glean anything from it. especially, if we are on their trail... then Ultimately that has to be good.

Besides that, what do you mean by “ultimately bode well for us”?

We are losing the battle, but winning the war kind of thing. Zugzwangs and what not.

Zugzwangs, because Occam's is so pre 2019.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Meeko

The motivation then ... Is it better to say frame of reference? .... The vantage I had with this, was one of assuming that non-town teams had a limited number of extra kills. That having used one of them [To total 3 NKs across two non-town teams] they felt pushed to do so.... because we were on to them.

Yes, 3 dead town in one day cycle is not good. BUT if we can glean anything from it. especially, if we are on their trail... then Ultimately that has to be good.

Besides that, what do you mean by “ultimately bode well for us”?

We are losing the battle, but winning the war kind of thing. Zugzwangs and what not.

Zugzwangs, because Occam's is so pre 2019.

What do you mean by "extra kills?"

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

What do you mean by "extra kills?"

I'm not sure how to answer this, without literally repeating what you just quoted I said.

I see two non town teams, and three kills.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Meeko

I'm not sure how to answer this, without literally repeating what you just quoted I said.

I see two non town teams, and three kills.

You seemed to think non-town has extra kills and didn't take into account the extra N1 death would come from Town, and that confused me.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

You seemed to think non-town has extra kills and didn't take into account the extra N1 death would come from Town, and that confused me.

This.